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Just because you don’t what to hear about it, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen and it’s not Newsworthy.

http://www.examiner.com/political-s...subpoena-power-for-bp-oil-spill-investigation


Blocking subpoena power in disaster investigative commissions is unheard of. The terrorist’s crisis, the financial crisis and Three Mile Island commissions all had subpoena power.

However, Senate Republicans gave no explanation on Monday when they blocked the Presidential Commission on the BP oil spill from having subpoena power to conduct the investigation. “These guys are in bed with the oil industry” said MSNBC Hardball host Chris Matthews.

Sen. Byron Dorgan D-ND said, “At a hearing that I was at we had Halliburton, Transocean and BP, all of whom were involved on this rig and this drill, and you know what they were doing is pointing at each other. Well, listen, the only way you’re going to get to the real truth and find out exactly what happened is to be able to subpoena all of them and say, look, you have got to produce all of your books and records so that we can inspect them and understand what happened a mile under the ocean out there.”

Protecting BP does not serve the American people, and it will not bring the truth to the millions of people along the Gulf Coast who are entitled to answers. Moreover, it is an insult to the families of the eleven men who were killed the night the Deepwater Horizon exploded. It is difficult to fathom how the Republicans can justify obstructing justice in the BP oil spill, but that is exactly what they have done. The bigger question is, how can Americans let them get away with it?

The move makes little sense, apart from Matthews conclusion which suggests that Republicans have been financially motivated to protect BP from being forced to supply the facts on what caused the April 20, 2010 disaster that killed eleven people, and polluted the Gulf of Mexico with almost 5 million barrels of oil and 2 million gallons of toxic chemical dispersant.


Capps, Markey push Senate on spill commission subpoena power By Ben Geman - 09/29/10 06:47 PM ET
http://thehill.com/blogs/e2-wire/67...sh-senate-on-spill-commission-subpoena-power-

Two House Democrats are pressing Senate leaders to quickly provide subpoena power to the presidential commission probing the BP oil spill, but the Senate appears unlikely to act in the remaining hours before it breaks for weeks.

Reps. Lois Capps (D-Calif.) and Ed Markey (D-Mass.), in a letter Wednesday that blames Republicans for Senate inaction, note that BP and other companies involved in the spill have “failed to provide accurate and timely information to investigators regarding a number of critical issues.”

The two House members sponsored legislation approved 420-1 in June that provides subpoena power to the National Commission on the BP Deepwater Horizon Oil Spill and Offshore Drilling. But the Senate has not taken up the measure.

The co-chairs of the commission – former Florida Sen. Bob Graham (D) and former EPA Administrator William Reilly – on Tuesday said the lack of subpoena power is hindering the probe.

“The Senate must act this week so investigators can compel testimony from reticent companies and enable the commission to complete its report on the causes of the spill by the January deadline. Without this critical tool BP and the other companies involved in the spill may escape being held accountable for their mistakes,” Capps and Markey wrote Wednesday in the letter to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) and Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.).

But their 11th-hour request is unlikely to be granted. A spokesman for Reid noted earlier today that Republicans have objected to the legislation in the past. The Senate is slated to adjourn tonight until after the mid-term elections.

By blocking the commission subpoena power, Republican obstructionists in the Senate are shielding BP from investigators tasked with getting to the bottom of this crime,” Markey said in a prepared statement.




This proves beyond any shadow of a doubt … that the Republicans are protecting the interest of British Petroleum and not the People of The United State of America or the American Citizens who Died on the platform.

Who has the stones to excuse this behavior?

If you’re looking for your Hitler … you need not look any further than the GOP
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Top recipient of BP cash.. Barry Obama. Person who shut down the US Gulf coast drilling industry, while handing Mexico the money to drill in the same places? Barry Obama..

I am sure there was some kind of under-handed trickery in the bill, as there usually is with nazicrat legislation.. :laughing:
 

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Top recipient of BP cash.. Barry Obama. Person who shut down the US Gulf coast drilling industry, while handing Mexico the money to drill in the same places? Barry Obama..

I am sure there was some kind of under-handed trickery in the bill, as there usually is with nazicrat legislation.. :laughing:
If Obama is blocking the Vote for Subpoena Power, can you please supply the forum the link?

We’ll wait for your findings on this topic … ;)
 

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Ouch, another talking point hammered.. :laughing:

UPDATE--

Good: Senate GOP will lift block on subpoena power against BP
Okay, it turns out Senate Republicans are going to do the right thing and support giving officials the subpoena power to probe BP.

The Senate GOP leadership has decided they have no objections to legislation giving subpoena power to the White House commission probing the oil spill, and will not block the bill from moving forward, aides tell me. The move will cheer liberals and Dems who were hoping to move this towards passage quickly.

Last week the House near-unanimously passed legislation giving the commission that power, but yesterday, Senator Jim DeMint infuriated Democrats by putting a block on the legislation when a Dem brought it to the floor for a voice vote.

DeMint claimed he was doing this on behalf of unnamed GOP Senators in his caucus, prompting Dems to charge that Republicans were shielding Big Oil from a real probe.

But the Senate GOP leadership has informed DeMint's office that it has no objections to the legislation, and it will proceed, DeMint spokesman Wesley Denton tells me.

"Senator DeMint does not and will not have an objection to this legislation," says Denton. "He simply objected on behalf of other senators who had not been given time to review the bill. Now that they've had time to review it, it seems no one has an objection."

So why was this blocked yesterday?

According to a DeMint aide, he happened to be on the floor when a Democratic Senator introduced the bill for a voice vote. DeMint was told by GOP leadership aides to hold up the bill because leadership hadn't had a chance to read it, the DeMint aide says.

But now that the leadership has read the bill and decided it has no objections, it will move forward if a Dem asks again for it to be passed by unanimous consent.

In truth, it would have been politically very difficult for Republicans to block this. Their decision to let it move forward deprives Dems of a potent talking point. But it's a good development.

UPDATE, 4:17 p.m.: Don Stewart, a spokesman for Mitch McConnell, confirms that the leadership has no objections to the bill. "I don't know of any objections," he says. "What I do know is that there is bipartisan support."
 

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Investigate? Investigate what? It was on the figgin news for months. We know what happened. Another waste of taxpayer dollars. More self important politicians wanting to be important.. :lookinup:
 

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Ouch, another talking point hammered.. :laughing:

UPDATE--

Good: Senate GOP will lift block on subpoena power against BP
Okay, it turns out Senate Republicans are going to do the right thing and support giving officials the subpoena power to probe BP.

The Senate GOP leadership has decided they have no objections to legislation giving subpoena power to the White House commission probing the oil spill, and will not block the bill from moving forward, aides tell me. The move will cheer liberals and Dems who were hoping to move this towards passage quickly.

Last week the House near-unanimously passed legislation giving the commission that power, but yesterday, Senator Jim DeMint infuriated Democrats by putting a block on the legislation when a Dem brought it to the floor for a voice vote.

DeMint claimed he was doing this on behalf of unnamed GOP Senators in his caucus, prompting Dems to charge that Republicans were shielding Big Oil from a real probe.

But the Senate GOP leadership has informed DeMint's office that it has no objections to the legislation, and it will proceed, DeMint spokesman Wesley Denton tells me.

"Senator DeMint does not and will not have an objection to this legislation," says Denton. "He simply objected on behalf of other senators who had not been given time to review the bill. Now that they've had time to review it, it seems no one has an objection."

So why was this blocked yesterday?

According to a DeMint aide, he happened to be on the floor when a Democratic Senator introduced the bill for a voice vote. DeMint was told by GOP leadership aides to hold up the bill because leadership hadn't had a chance to read it, the DeMint aide says.

But now that the leadership has read the bill and decided it has no objections, it will move forward if a Dem asks again for it to be passed by unanimous consent.

In truth, it would have been politically very difficult for Republicans to block this. Their decision to let it move forward deprives Dems of a potent talking point. But it's a good development.

UPDATE, 4:17 p.m.: Don Stewart, a spokesman for Mitch McConnell, confirms that the leadership has no objections to the bill. "I don't know of any objections," he says. "What I do know is that there is bipartisan support."


Good, then I'm sure they will have no problem VOTING YES on it! :laughing:


When Billions of Gallons are spilled into nearby United States waters … intelligent minds want to know why.

When Corporations encounter multiple Work-Related Deaths over a relative short timeframe … intelligent minds want to know why.

When Government Employees resist the desire to seek answer to national disasters … intelligent minds want to know why.

Why would anyone with an intelligent mind, not what to hear directly from the individuals who are accountable for above?


It will be interesting to hear the reason why no one wants to hear from these individuals ... Hummmm ... why?

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I fully understand that MSNBC would not give you the real reason why both democrats and republicans would vote no on this bill. It has nothing to do with your knee-jerk reaction to oil companies or the ability subpoena information... this has to do with the entire process being an "executive order" rather then a congressional mandate.

See the difference ? King vs the People.
 

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I fully understand that MSNBC would not give you the real reason why both democrats and republicans would vote no on this bill. It has nothing to do with your knee-jerk reaction to oil companies or the ability subpoena information... this has to do with the entire process being an "executive order" rather then a congressional mandate.

See the difference ? King vs the People.
Ideology over Common since … I learned long ago, if you have nothing to hide, how scary a simple question can be?

It’s real simple, “Something Happened”, the question is, “What Happened”?

Do you know, factually what happened?


If you blow enough smoke up the peoples ass, they will cough.
 

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Easy to figure out, the reps held the bill so they could read it and make sure there wasn't any more new and burdensome taxes/requirements placed on small business, like the nazicrats are known to do. They read it, felt ok with it, and it will pass (had the dems not hauled ass outta town :laughing:).
 

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Ideology over Common since … I learned long ago, if you have nothing to hide, how scary a simple question can be?
You mean like college records ?

Executive order... vs congressional mandate. THAT is what this is about. It goes much further then BP. This gives the presidents czars -the ability to subpoena information for any reason... or no reason. This is not limited to BP alone. Think bigger. Understand what it is you wish this country to turn in to... at the moment -you do not -and simply like the word Progressive... without understanding it's true meaning.
 

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You mean like college records ?

Executive order... vs congressional mandate. THAT is what this is about. It goes much further then BP. This gives the presidents czars -the ability to subpoena information for any reason... or no reason. This is not limited to BP alone. Think bigger. Understand what it is you wish this country to turn in to... at the moment -you do not -and simply like the word Progressive... without understanding it's true meaning.
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Well done.
Bump for an excellent clarification.
 
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