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Last week, the jobs report had many excited: unemployment hit a two-year low. Then we brought you a chart and fact that showed while the numbers were good, there’s still a long way to go. Now, here’s another one of those charts from Gregor.us via Business Insider.

“Of course, the structural problem of America’s labor market is unchanged, because of population growth during that same time period,” writes Gregor MacDonald. “At current rates of ‘jobs growth’ it would take until 2016 to regain the employment highs of 2006-2007.”

Here‘s the chart that shows what he’s talking about:



More here.... http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/jobs-chart-620x620.jpg
 

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I think 2016 is optimistic. I will be surprised if we ever have 4% unemployment again. We are simply getting more and more people, especially legal and illegal immigrants vying for fewer jobs. The job market is not bad simply because of outsourcing. Technology has eliminated millions of jobs over the last 25 years. Of course, technology also created a lot of jobs, but the new jobs typically require more education and training than the ones that were lost. It's a complex problem with more than one cause, and no simple solution.
 

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Personally

I think the statistics are all shame report backed by the government

Most of the country's wealth and jobs are leaving to Communist China &

The middle east, or Canada, and Mexico

Via your Free trade policy & Imported Foreign Oil

This has caused major slow down of small businesses owners
who aren't really making it

Also many of the New jobs reported are low paying seasonal work, Which will drop off again in November
 

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I think 2016 is optimistic. I will be surprised if we ever have 4% unemployment again. We are simply getting more and more people, especially legal and illegal immigrants vying for fewer jobs. The job market is not bad simply because of outsourcing. Technology has eliminated millions of jobs over the last 25 years. Of course, technology also created a lot of jobs, but the new jobs typically require more education and training than the ones that were lost. It's a complex problem with more than one cause, and no simple solution.
Added to that many people have lost their "safety net piggy bank" values in houses and over valued stocks.. Combined with tighter credit requirements there won't be as much money for frivalities let alone needs.
 

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Starting my own business back in 1983 was the smartest thing I've ever done. Yes, there have been a few rocky years in that time. None as bad as 2008-2009 and 2009 -2010, but we've made it through. As far as 2011? I think the best is behind us for this year. I see very little spending in the private sector, and we made a corporate decision last year to not bid on any projects in the future that has a dot gov associated with it. Too much bull-pelosi bureaucracy, and you have to wait forever to get paid.
The private sector is basically stagnant and the only people spending money are in the guberment, and that's all borrowed money.
I still think it is going to take something major to jump start our economy. A major disaster, another world war, or a change in the administration. Businessmen know not to trust our current leadership in any aspect, be it foreign policy, domestic programs, taxes.................. anything!
Every problem facing our Republic today originated with some liberal policy, program or bailout.
Just remember who held the purse strings during the last half of the Bush administration. It was Democraps. Bush's hands were tied, and when Oboze took the office, liberals went on a 10 year spent up spending spree, buying votes for 2012 with bailouts and entitlement programs.

Too many people riding in the wagon these days, and those of us still pulling it are GD tired of doing all the work!
 

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Starting my own business back in 1983 was the smartest thing I've ever done. Yes, there have been a few rocky years in that time. None as bad as 2008-2009 and 2009 -2010, but we've made it through. As far as 2011? I think the best is behind us for this year. I see very little spending in the private sector, and we made a corporate decision last year to not bid on any projects in the future that has a dot gov associated with it. Too much bull-pelosi bureaucracy, and you have to wait forever to get paid.
The private sector is basically stagnant and the only people spending money are in the guberment, and that's all borrowed money.
I still think it is going to take something major to jump start our economy. A major disaster, another world war, or a change in the administration. Businessmen know not to trust our current leadership in any aspect, be it foreign policy, domestic programs, taxes.................. anything!
Every problem facing our Republic today originated with some liberal policy, program or bailout.
Just remember who held the purse strings during the last half of the Bush administration. It was Democraps. Bush's hands were tied, and when Oboze took the office, liberals went on a 10 year spent up spending spree, buying votes for 2012 with bailouts and entitlement programs.

Too many people riding in the wagon these days, and those of us still pulling it are GD tired of doing all the work!

Well said :thumbsup:

I agree, The people of America have lost faith in the government

Too many foreign Idea's and too many bad decisions made

In short their thinking is not very American :laughing:

And they lack True Patriotism in their decisions

I find it all very Ironic that Men and women are serving this country abroad

And here at home the Government is tearing down what took many wars and generations to build :nuts:

For now we just want them all out I think

They've all been bought off, Traitors !
 

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I think 2016 is optimistic. I will be surprised if we ever have 4% unemployment again. We are simply getting more and more people, especially legal and illegal immigrants vying for fewer jobs. The job market is not bad simply because of outsourcing. Technology has eliminated millions of jobs over the last 25 years. Of course, technology also created a lot of jobs, but the new jobs typically require more education and training than the ones that were lost. It's a complex problem with more than one cause, and no simple solution.
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The issue is MUCH, MUCH larger than repubocrats and demublicans. Thats just polarizing banter to keep the masses bamboozled. Zoom way, way, out, and see the big picture.

In 1913, Congress signed into law the Federal Reserve Act, (which law was writen by a group of banksters, not our elected officals), giving control of our nations' monetary policy to a private corporation. This private corporation is owned by a group of banks, who are in turn owned by the Rothschilds, Warburgs, Morgans, Carnegies, and Rockefellers. No, the Fed is not part of our government, but pulls all the strings. The word "Fed" was designed to align it with, and make it seem like it was part of our Federal Government.

The Fed trumps every other power block, because if you aren't funded, you can't get into office. You can't finance wars, (as all our wars are financed with borrowed money, even going back to the Civil War), so who is more powerful, the Commander in Cheif, or the Chairman of the Fed? Wise people know the answer to this question, while the sheeple still think there is a viable political system under control of We the People. It's only an illusion now, and it doesn't matter who is President, nothing ever changes. Barron Von Rothschild said, "Let me control a nations' money supply, and it matters not who makes her laws". Money power trumps all political power. You can't even stage a successful military coup w/o funding. The winners of wars are the well funded, and the banksters choose who gets funded, and in the case of the Rothscilds, they frequently financed both sides of a conflict, and bankrupted both sides, to gain complete control of all. Thats how they got so rich. They are beyond nationalistic loyalties, they view the earth and its inhabitants as their playground, to hold it suybjected under their rule.

When interest rates are low, capital borrowing increases, projects are started by developers, the unemployment rate drops. When interest rates are raised, borrowing slows, unemployment goes up. So the person who holds this throttle in their hand is actually the person who has the most power to affect the quality of life for Americans, and that person is the Chairman of the Fed, not the President. All the President does is parrot what we all aready know, "Many of you are suffering, we'll enact a bailout plan", but that bailout plan was actually already designed by the banksters. The political process is a puppet show. See the strings yet? Look closer! Idiots are mesmerized by the puppet show, and talk of what happens off stage throws them in a tizzy. They are not used to thinking about anything beyond, except what Punch and Judy are doing on stage. Good, easily manipulated sheeple, caught in the suspension of disbeleif, unable to see the big picture.

In 2001, the Fed began printing money with reckless abandon, more than doubling the M3, and as a cart follows an ox, the DX index dropped lilke a stone. This did not deter them, they were on a mission, to cut the United States down to size, reduce the cost of labor in the 1st world, redistribute wealth to more historical proportions, (the thumbtack, instead of Americas' bloated bell shape). Standard bank stability requirements were being lowered by the Fed, to borrowing banks, so much so, that from 2001 to 2006, all you basically needed was a bank charter alone, with little to no reserves on hand. Ok, not exactly that low, but the truth is, the Fed let small banks hang themselves on purpose. Everyone was high on credit.

They were not ignorant of what was happening to the DX index, nor were they ignorant of the fact that easy credit was winding its way into B paper real estate loans. These people are not oblivious to the effects of their actions. It's their family business, which they have run for generations. Then when all had feasted on the easy credit, they rippled the interest rates in 2006/7, pulled the carpet out from underneath the weak-handed paper holders, and thusly put vast numbers of B paper loans under water. These are the marrionettes, and they are the guilty ones.

"All wealth is the product of labor" The international banksters would like all labor to be at, or as close as possible to 3rd world labor levels. The bloated wages of the G7 are disdained by the international banksters. They prefer the financial structure of the 3rd world, with .001 % of the population holding 99% of the wealth. What to do, what to do? First, pass GATT and NAFTA during lame duck sessions of Congress, that will allow importation of cheap products, and facilitate moving jobs off-shore, then, Create a financial meltdown, a false-flag crisis, then provide a solution. These are the steps they have taken, to return the soverign United States to 2nd or 3rd world status. The Bilderbergers actually get these marching orders from an even smaller group, possibly the Rothchilds, or the Iluminati.

Anyway, regardless of who is in charge, you can see the way they have manipulated events, you can see the steps thay have taken, which show that they want the 1st world to revert to 2nd or 3rd world status. This process of importing cheap labor into 1st world nations is now taking place in England, France, Norway, Italy, etc. This is the way they will breakdown the G7, and return the world to a thumbtack distribution of wealth, like the days of the Emperors, Czars, and Kings.

The banksters are not patriots of any country, they live in all the best places in the world, but are loyal to none, except their own profits. Sheeple are just the mules to which they attach their wealth-creating machines, beasts of burden from one ignorant generation to the next, serving an invisible master over generations.

Why create a financial crisis? To take out hundreds and hundreds of smaller banks, to amass control of said markets, to make the public outcry for "more power to the Fed", (yes, incredibly, that actually transpired), to create a backdrop of economic malaise and unemployment from which justifications to roll back the quality of life for Americans could be justified. This is seen today, as state governors seek to repeal the rights of workers to unionize. You can also check where GM, while on Capitol Hill seeking TARP funds, was told by a Congressman to roll back the wages of the UAW to competitor levels of Toyota, etc. Since when does a soveriegn nation have to match the living standards of a lesser nation? The fix is in, the plan is unfolding. They want to squeeze the bell-shape distribution of wealth in at the sides, to get it more in line with the historical thumbtack, (rich at top, poor at bottom), which makes them comfy, and most profitable. The financial forces at work here are far bigger than any US political parties, rather, it is the very banking system that strangeholds the entire Republic, and thereby holds hostage our national right to self-determination.

About 2006, Governor of New Jersey Elliot Spitzer tried to educate consumers about the dangers of easy credit B paper loans through pamphlets distributed by his State Dept, but was threatened by the Bush administration, where they cited some obscure law from the 1800's about not impeding commerce. He didn't cease and desist, but continued his education program. So they dug up some dirt on him, about his hookers, to get him out of office. This, among MANY other factual, verifiable examples, shows that the Bush administration was completely complicit with the banksters plan, the set-up, the redistribution of wealth, precipitated by the manufactured economic crisis. Which is not to say the Dems aren't also complicit, the truth is, WE HAVE NO ONE IN WASHINGTON THAT IS A TRUE PATRIOT, they are all bought-and-paid-for shills for the Fed. Obama gave thanks at a function to the banking related group Apollos, like they did us all a big favor or something, for writing the TARP plan. All political parties bow down to the defacto-king, the Fed, the banksters. But just try and talk about auditing the Fed, and they all scamper away to their holes, like roaches in a cheap hotel when the lights come on.

The TARP bailout plan, to bail out the banks, written by the banking group called Apollos. Ain't that some sh*t? The banksters create the crisis, then the banksters want bailout money for their mistakes, excesses and bonuses, then the bansters write their own solution for it, which means "bend the taxpayer over", then they stick it under the noses of Congress to sign into law, and put the Republic in debt to them. Again. This doesn't pass the smell-test.

Just like the TARP bailout plan was not written by Congress, so the Federal Reserve Act was not written by Congress. All our elected officals are is a bunch of rubber-stamps, to whatever whim the bansters have. Dems and Reps alike, all just rubber stamps, shills with strings on their hands. That's not conjecture, that's history, and has NOTHING TO DO WITH DEM-vs-REP drivel. See the big picture, quit worrying about if Coke is better than Pepsi, who's running for dog-catcher, or how many pot holes we're going to fill this year. The stranglehold the Fed has on the Republic is FAR BIGGER than any political process, is a problem of MONUMENTAL proportions, and FAR outweighs and exceeds any issue our nation faces. Our very life and breath is being siphoned away, through usury, through a steadily declining, flexible currency, and through interest. Retaining the fruits of your labors is the game, and the government (IRS, Congress, et al) is never on the side of the working populace, rather, they are the leech that sucks the blood out of us, and profits the banksters. We live in a economic serfdom.

Repeal the Fed Reserve Act, restore the Republics' right of self-determination to We the People, for the good of ourselves, and our decendants.
 

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The issue is MUCH, MUCh larger than repocrats and dempublicans. Thats just polarizing banter to keep the masses bamboozled. Zoom way, way, out, and see the big picture.

In 1913, Congress signed into law the Federal Reserve Act, giving control of our nations' monetary policy to a private corporation. yes, the Fed is not part of our government, but pulls all the strings. The Fed trumps every other power block, because if you aren't funded, you can't get into office. You can't finance wars, (as all our wars are financed with borrowed money, even going back to the Civil War), so who is more powerful, the Commander in Cheif, or the Chairman of the Fed? Wise people know the answer to this question, while the sheeple still think there is a viable political system under control of We the People. It's only an illusion now, and it doesn't matter who is President, nothing ever changes. Barron Von Rothschild said, "Let me control a nations' money supply, and it matters not who makes her laws". Money power trumps all political power. You can't even stage a successful military coup w/o funding. The winners of wars are the well funded.

When interst rates are low, capital borrowing increases, projects are started by developers, the unemployment rate drops. When interest rates are raised, borrowing slows, unemployment goes up. So the person who holds this throttle in their hand is actually the person who has the most power to affect the quality of life for Americans, and that person is the Chairman of the Fed, not the President. All the President does is parrot what we all aready know, "Many of you are suffering, we'll enact a bailout plan", but that bailout plan was actually already designed by the banksters. The political process is a puppet show. See the strings yet? Look closer!

In 2001, the Fed began printing money with reckless abandon, and the DX index dropped lilke a stone. This did not deter them, they were on a mission, to cut the United States down to size, reduce the cost of labor in the 1st world, redistribute wealth to more historical proportions, (the thumbtack, instead of Americas' bloated bell shape). Stability requirements were being lowered by the Fed to borrowing banks. They were not ignorant of what was happening to the DX index, nor were they ignorant of the fact that easy credit was winding its way into B paper real estate loans. These people are not oblivious to the effects of their actions. Then when all had feasted on the easy credit, they rippled the interest rates, pulled the carpet out from underneath the weak handed paper holders, to put vast numbers of B paper loans under water.

"All wealth is the product of labor" The international banksters would like all labor to be at, or aas close as possible to 3rd world labor levels. The bloated wages of the G7 are disdained by the international banksters. They prefer the financial structure of the 3rd world, with .001 % of the population holding 99% of the wealth. What to do, what to do? First, pass GATT and NAFTA during lame duck sessions, that will allow importation of cheap products, zand facilitate moving jobs off-shore, then, Create a financial meltdown, a false-flag crisis, then provide a solution. These are the steps they have taken, to return the soverign United States to 2nd or 3rd world status. The Bilderbergers actually get these marching orders from an even smaller group, possibly the Rothchilds, or the Iluminati. Anyway, regardless, the steps thay have taken shows that they want the 1st world to revert to 2nd or 3rd world status. This process of importing cheap labor into 1st world nations is now taking place in England, France, Norway, etc. This is the way they will breakdown the G7, and return the world the a thumbtack distribution of wealth. The banksters are not patriots of any country, they live in all the best places in the world, but are loyal to none, except their profits. Sheeple are just teh mules they atach their wealth-creating machines to, beasts of burden from one ignorant generation to the next, serving an invisible master over generations.

Why create a financial crisis? To take out hundreds and hundreds of smaller banks, to amass control of said markets, to make the public outcry for "more power to the Fed", (yes, incredibly, that transpired), to create a backdrop of economic malaise and unemployment from which justifications to roll back the quality of life for Americans could be justified. This is seen today, as state governors seek to repeal the rights of workers to unionize. You can also check where GM, while on Capitol Hill seeking TARP funds, was told by a Congressman to roll back the wages of the UAW to competitor levels of Toyota, etc. Since when does a soveriegn nation have to match the living standards of a lesser nation? The fix is in, the plan is unfolding. They want to squeeze the bell-shape distribution of wealth in at the sides, to get it more in line with the historical thumbtack, (rich at top, poor at bottom), which makes them comfy, and most profitable. The financial forces at work here are far bigger than any US political parties, rather, it is the very banking system that strangeholds the entire Republic, and thereby holds hostage our national right to self-determination.

Governor of New Jersey Elliot Spitzer tried to educate consumers about the dangers of easy credit B paper loans through pamphlets distributed by his State Dept, and was stopped by the Bush administration, where they cited some obscure law from the 1800's about not getting in the way of commerce. He didn't cease and desist, and continued his education program, so they dug up some dirt on him about being with hookers, to get him out of office. This, among MANY other factual, verifiable examples, shows that the Bush administration was completely complicit with the set-up, the redistribution of wealth, precipitated by the manufactured economic crisis. Which is not to say the Dems aren't also complicit, the truth is, WE HAVE NO ONE IN WASHINGTON THAT IS A TRUE PATRIOT, they are all bought-and-paid-for shills for the Fed. Talk about auditing the Fed, and they all scamper away to their holes, like roaches in a cheap hotel when the lights come on.

The TARP bailout plan was written by a banking group called Apollos. Ain't that some sh*t? The banksters create the crisis, then the banksters want bailout money for their mistakes, excesses and bonuses, then the bansters write their own solution for it, which means "bend the taxpayer over", then they stick it under the noses of Congress to sign into law. Again. Just like the Federal Reserve Act was not written by Congress, so the TARP bailout plan was not written by Congress. All our elected officals are is a bunch of rubber-stamps, to whatever whim the bansters have. Dems and Reps alike, all just rubber stamps. That's not conjecture, that's history. Has NOTHING TO DO WITH DEM-vs-REP drivel. See the big picture, quit worrying about if Coke is better than Pepsi, or how many pot holes we're going to fill this year. The stranglehold the Fed has on the Republic is FAR BIGGER than any political process, and FAR outweighs and exceeds any issue our nation faces. Our very life and breath is being siphoned away, through usury, through a steadily declining, flexible currency, and through interest. Retaining the fruits of your labors is the game, and the government (IRS, Congress, et al) is never on the side of the working populace, rather, they are the leech that sucks the blood out of us, and profits the bankers. We live in a economic serfdom.

Repeal the Fed Reserve Act, restore the Republics' right of self-determination to We the People, for the good of ourselves, and our decendants.
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The issue is MUCH, MUCh larger than repocrats and dempublicans. Thats just polarizing banter to keep the masses bamboozled. Zoom way, way, out, and see the big picture.

In 1913, Congress signed into law the Federal Reserve Act, giving control of our nations' monetary policy to a private corporation. yes, the Fed is not part of our government, but pulls all the strings. The Fed trumps every other power block, because if you aren't funded, you can't get into office. You can't finance wars, (as all our wars are financed with borrowed money, even going back to the Civil War), so who is more powerful, the Commander in Cheif, or the Chairman of the Fed? Wise people know the answer to this question, while the sheeple still think there is a viable political system under control of We the People. It's only an illusion now, and it doesn't matter who is President, nothing ever changes. Barron Von Rothschild said, "Let me control a nations' money supply, and it matters not who makes her laws". Money power trumps all political power. You can't even stage a successful military coup w/o funding. The winners of wars are the well funded.

When interst rates are low, capital borrowing increases, projects are started by developers, the unemployment rate drops. When interest rates are raised, borrowing slows, unemployment goes up. So the person who holds this throttle in their hand is actually the person who has the most power to affect the quality of life for Americans, and that person is the Chairman of the Fed, not the President. All the President does is parrot what we all aready know, "Many of you are suffering, we'll enact a bailout plan", but that bailout plan was actually already designed by the banksters. The political process is a puppet show. See the strings yet? Look closer!

In 2001, the Fed began printing money with reckless abandon, and the DX index dropped lilke a stone. This did not deter them, they were on a mission, to cut the United States down to size, reduce the cost of labor in the 1st world, redistribute wealth to more historical proportions, (the thumbtack, instead of Americas' bloated bell shape). Stability requirements were being lowered by the Fed to borrowing banks. They were not ignorant of what was happening to the DX index, nor were they ignorant of the fact that easy credit was winding its way into B paper real estate loans. These people are not oblivious to the effects of their actions. Then when all had feasted on the easy credit, they rippled the interest rates, pulled the carpet out from underneath the weak handed paper holders, to put vast numbers of B paper loans under water.

"All wealth is the product of labor" The international banksters would like all labor to be at, or aas close as possible to 3rd world labor levels. The bloated wages of the G7 are disdained by the international banksters. They prefer the financial structure of the 3rd world, with .001 % of the population holding 99% of the wealth. What to do, what to do? First, pass GATT and NAFTA during lame duck sessions, that will allow importation of cheap products, zand facilitate moving jobs off-shore, then, Create a financial meltdown, a false-flag crisis, then provide a solution. These are the steps they have taken, to return the soverign United States to 2nd or 3rd world status. The Bilderbergers actually get these marching orders from an even smaller group, possibly the Rothchilds, or the Iluminati. Anyway, regardless, the steps thay have taken shows that they want the 1st world to revert to 2nd or 3rd world status. This process of importing cheap labor into 1st world nations is now taking place in England, France, Norway, etc. This is the way they will breakdown the G7, and return the world the a thumbtack distribution of wealth. The banksters are not patriots of any country, they live in all the best places in the world, but are loyal to none, except their profits. Sheeple are just teh mules they atach their wealth-creating machines to, beasts of burden from one ignorant generation to the next, serving an invisible master over generations.

Why create a financial crisis? To take out hundreds and hundreds of smaller banks, to amass control of said markets, to make the public outcry for "more power to the Fed", (yes, incredibly, that transpired), to create a backdrop of economic malaise and unemployment from which justifications to roll back the quality of life for Americans could be justified. This is seen today, as state governors seek to repeal the rights of workers to unionize. You can also check where GM, while on Capitol Hill seeking TARP funds, was told by a Congressman to roll back the wages of the UAW to competitor levels of Toyota, etc. Since when does a soveriegn nation have to match the living standards of a lesser nation? The fix is in, the plan is unfolding. They want to squeeze the bell-shape distribution of wealth in at the sides, to get it more in line with the historical thumbtack, (rich at top, poor at bottom), which makes them comfy, and most profitable. The financial forces at work here are far bigger than any US political parties, rather, it is the very banking system that strangeholds the entire Republic, and thereby holds hostage our national right to self-determination.

Governor of New Jersey Elliot Spitzer tried to educate consumers about the dangers of easy credit B paper loans through pamphlets distributed by his State Dept, and was stopped by the Bush administration, where they cited some obscure law from the 1800's about not getting in the way of commerce. He didn't cease and desist, and continued his education program, so they dug up some dirt on him about being with hookers, to get him out of office. This, among MANY other factual, verifiable examples, shows that the Bush administration was completely complicit with the set-up, the redistribution of wealth, precipitated by the manufactured economic crisis. Which is not to say the Dems aren't also complicit, the truth is, WE HAVE NO ONE IN WASHINGTON THAT IS A TRUE PATRIOT, they are all bought-and-paid-for shills for the Fed. Talk about auditing the Fed, and they all scamper away to their holes, like roaches in a cheap hotel when the lights come on.

The TARP bailout plan was written by a banking group called Apollos. Ain't that some sh*t? The banksters create the crisis, then the banksters want bailout money for their mistakes, excesses and bonuses, then the bansters write their own solution for it, which means "bend the taxpayer over", then they stick it under the noses of Congress to sign into law. Again. Just like the Federal Reserve Act was not written by Congress, so the TARP bailout plan was not written by Congress. All our elected officals are is a bunch of rubber-stamps, to whatever whim the bansters have. Dems and Reps alike, all just rubber stamps. That's not conjecture, that's history. Has NOTHING TO DO WITH DEM-vs-REP drivel. See the big picture, quit worrying about if Coke is better than Pepsi, or how many pot holes we're going to fill this year. The stranglehold the Fed has on the Republic is FAR BIGGER than any political process, and FAR outweighs and exceeds any issue our nation faces. Our very life and breath is being siphoned away, through usury, through a steadily declining, flexible currency, and through interest. Retaining the fruits of your labors is the game, and the government (IRS, Congress, et al) is never on the side of the working populace, rather, they are the leech that sucks the blood out of us, and profits the bankers. We live in a economic serfdom.

Repeal the Fed Reserve Act, restore the Republics' right of self-determination to We the People, for the good of ourselves, and our decendants.

Yeah thats what I've been saying all along

None of this happened by accident

America !


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When interst rates are low, capital borrowing increases, projects are started by developers, the unemployment rate drops. When interest rates are raised, borrowing slows, unemployment goes up. So the person who holds this throttle in their hand is actually the person who has the most power to affect the quality of life for Americans, and that person is the Chairman of the Fed, not the President. All the President does is parrot what we all aready know, "Many of you are suffering, we'll enact a bailout plan", but that bailout plan was actually already designed by the banksters. The political process is a puppet show. See the strings yet? Look closer!
I get your drift, and I don't completely disagree, but the above paragraph puzzles me. The Fed has kept interest at historic lows for the last several years, but I don't see evidence of lots of borrowing and developing creating jobs. There obviously is more to the picture than simply monetary policy when it comes to the worldwide economic situation.
 

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I get your drift, and I don't completely disagree, but the above paragraph puzzles me. The Fed has kept interest at historic lows for the last several years, but I don't see evidence of lots of borrowing and developing creating jobs. There obviously is more to the picture than simply monetary policy when it comes to the worldwide economic situation.
:laughing: Come on Copper Top, wake up and smell the bankstershit!

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the obvious solution is we start a rumor, that theres been a break thru in border security and we no longer bother to enforce the border crossing restrictions because we are hiding the fact that THOUSANDS of illegals are going missing every month, and a secret investigation, that the government is keeping covered up, shows they are being killed and processed into
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and fertilizer,
we start selling GREEN CRACKERS in twin packs in truck stops, and have the labels say they are 90% animal protein based and inspected to be free from AIDS virus


we get a few frantic Spanish speaking loony tunes to start spouting this , flash a few pictures of huge meat packing plants and Holocaust pictures as back ground and start demanding proof of citizen ship at traffic stops....rumors, and the internet should do the rest.:D:laughing:
 

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the obvious solution is we start a rumor, that theres been a break thru in border security and we no longer bother to enforce the border crossing restrictions because we are hiding the fact that THOUSANDS of illegals are going missing every month, and a secret investigation, that the government is keeping covered up, shows they are being killed and processed into
Soylent_Green

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soylent_Green

and fertilizer,
we start selling GREEN CRACKERS in twin packs in truck stops, and have the labels say they are 90% protein based and inspected to be free from AIDS virus


we get a few frantic Spanish speaking loony tunes to start spouting this , flash a few pictures of huge meat packing plants and Holocaust pictures as back ground and start demanding proof of citizen ship at traffic stops....rumors, and the internet should do the rest.

Good one!:thumbsup: Since I'm old enough to remember the movie, I'll tell you that my friends know what I mean when I say this is a "Soylent Green Moment". In that movie, people didn't have much real food, just soylent green to eat. If someone was getting older and depressed about life, they could volunteer to commit suicide and receive a fabulous meal of their choice before doing the deed. The look in the eyes of an old man eating a steak when he hasn't seen one in decades is how I feel when I have a premium restaurant meal. I call it my soylent green moment and everyone knows what I mean. :laughing:
 

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A very good point. My brief explanation was offered more as a historical relationship, to show how interest rates affect our lives.

At this time, my feeling is, they have seemingly shot themselves in the foot, where lower rates do not stimulate the economy any longer, but actually, they are content to wait out the storm, until they complete their NWO mission.

I'd like to ask a question, to anyone who has an inkling.
How can the economy of the whole world be in a recession? Other than China, or maybe India, it doesn't seem like there is any place that is enjoying growth. Certainly not in the G7 nations. Maybe their time is passing, like economic powerhouse Spain of old, once the world financial and military superpower, now just a dusty shell of former glory. The pendulum has swung to the East once again. Is "growth" really just the transferrence from one pocket to another? So if China flourishes as the world's low cost labor supplier, then the wealth of rest of the world transfers to China? Sure seems like that now, where they have double-digit GDP growth, and everyone else is treading water.

Or is world-wide growth an increase in the sum total of the productivity of the entire earth, as population expands, and goods and services grow all over the world to meet the increased demand? "Growth" in this case would not be the transferrence of wealth from one country to another, but an accross-the-board exapansion of the wealth of all nations. Well, it's not like the world became infertile, or there was a new ice age. Everything continues as it was. So how is it that all nations could be experiencing a recession?

The sun still comes up, food still grows in the fields, mining and manufacturing still continue, people still consume products, population continues to expand. How could the entire world be in a recession? (Unless someone was skimming off the top with a flexible currency, anchored by its' petrol-exchange privilege?) (wink!)

Who was it that said "If you laid all the economists end to end, they couldn't reach a conclusion" ? (!)

I get your drift, and I don't completely disagree, but the above paragraph puzzles me. The Fed has kept interest at historic lows for the last several years, but I don't see evidence of lots of borrowing and developing creating jobs. There obviously is more to the picture than simply monetary policy when it comes to the worldwide economic situation.
 

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Let me guess... the Libertarian party will get us out of all the "bankster" shenanigans ?
 

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Let me guess... the Libertarian party will get us out of all the "bankster" shenanigans ?
1: Too many single party voters.
2: The GOP will rescue us once again, with their fiscal conservatism :)rolling:) and their high morals :)rolling:) and outstanding family values to keep the gays from marrying and bringing on the end of civilization as we know it :)rolling:)

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I don't know what you are laughing about ? Tell you what... take on the seemingly simple task of getting yourselves elected... before you go taking on a real problem like the Fed.

Until you do... you will remain a bunch of 60's era "don't label me man" hippies with clean hair and nice shoes.
 

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I don't know what you are laughing about ? Tell you what... take on the seemingly simple task of getting yourselves elected... before you go taking on a real problem like the Fed.

Until you do... you will remain a bunch of 60's era "don't label me man" hippies with clean hair and nice shoes.
:laughing: Oh don't get all butt hurt Preach.. The fed will continue, the wars will continue, and your liberty will continue to erode. Nothing will change, you will still get to argue with the other half about gay marriage and keeping the down trodden, downtrodden. And you will have Obamacare to determine when your viability has run it's course.

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:laughing: Oh don't get all butt hurt Preach.. The fed will continue, the wars will continue, and your liberty will continue to erode. Nothing will change, you will still get to argue with the other half about gay marriage and keeping the down trodden, downtrodden. And you will have Obamacare to determine when your viability has run it's course.

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Yeah ? When in the history of this country... have more people had as many liberties as we have, today ?

As far as the gays... I wouldn't be so submissive of their political clout, if I were you. They are a hell of a bigger political influence then your party has ever been... or seemingly ever will be.

Don't label me, man.
 
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