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I see you're laughing, I guess since a birth certificate doesn't matter to the puppetmasters it dopesn't matter to you?
:laughing: I'm laughing because Trump really don't give a **** what he says, nor to who. As for me, I am a showmethecertificate kind of guy.. even more so since Abercrombie promised it and couldn't find it.
 

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Nice find Buddy

I'd vote for the guy

It's about time these other countrys begin paying up to do business within the United States

And for the protection our Armed services provide

Thats about how Stupid our government is tho

Over there protecting Koreans and Using our Tax dollars to do it

TRUMP ON IRAQ exactly what I was thinking

 

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Nice find Buddy

I'd vote for the guy

It's about time these other countrys begin paying up to do business within the United States

And for the protection our Armed services provide

Thats about how Stupid our government is tho

Over there protecting Koreans and Using our Tax dollars to do it

TRUMP ON IRAQ exactly what I was thinking

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g29J_r7o2sA&feature=related
You'd vote for him? Really? Because he also donated $ for the folks in Japan. Apparently you must think he's an asshole and a traitor like Bulllock?
 

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You'd vote for him? Really? Because he also donated $ for the folks in Japan. Apparently you must think he's an asshole and a traitor like Bulllock?

Ahhhhhhhhhh Mann

I just had a good Puke

you Sandra Bullock lover's are obsessed with a women whos way past her prime

And full of bad idea's

Probably a lot like yourselves

Trump didn't donate nothing to the Japanese Cept his Middle finger like me

Trump's a real American and if he runs,

he's in the running for my Vote :nuts:
 

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This hasn't come up much ...... yet. But, in the months ahead it will be major news.

Several states, possible as many as 8, have passed legislation requiring canidates to provide indispuitable documentation and proof that they, indeed, are legal, natural citizens of the US.

ie. A birth certificate.
Not a certificate of live birth.

I am proud to report my state is one of those states!
 

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To my way of thinking the only question should be "Is this country politics or a big business". We have had politicians running this country forever and quite frankly, I don't think they're doing a good job. Nearly every nation on the planet has their hand out and we are putting the taxpayer dollars in that open hand. Countries that have a lot more money and a lot less debt than we do are getting federal money. All this is going on while hard working Americans are losing their jobs and homes.

Donald Trump makes many great points about why we are getting no income from the fruits of our labors and our servicemen's lives. Iraq is making money from us by selling oil and we are paying to keep troops there and giving them foreign aid. Donald is right to think that they should be paying us for our services.

Although I don't have any facts to back it up, I would bet that much of this "aid" goes in the pockets of some third world big-shot because there is no accounting for this money. We just give them a check and say "Here ya' go".

Yep, I'd vote for Trump in a heartbeat because I feel that we need accountability for our expenditures and also because I don't think politicians have any concept of money or what to do when your credit card is maxed out. Personally, if my credit card has no available balance I just quit spending so much. Our politicians just raise their credit limit. That has got to be a path to disaster.

Of course that's just IMHO.
 

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Well said. It is my belief also, that a business man -and not a politician -is needed to right our nation.
 

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Fox just showed two new polls about Trump. The first asked if he should run for pres. roughly 25% said yes and 75% said no. When asked if they had a positive, neutral or negative feelings about Trump, it was roughly 25% negative, 50% neutral and 25% positive. Both polls surprised me. I thought more people would think positively about him and would want him to run for president.
 

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Fox just showed two new polls about Trump. The first asked if he should run for pres. roughly 25% said yes and 75% said no. When asked if they had a positive, neutral or negative feelings about Trump, it was roughly 25% negative, 50% neutral and 25% positive. Both polls surprised me. I thought more people would think positively about him and would want him to run for president.
They didn't poll me :laughing: If you polled people in NY, I guess you would recieve these results :lookinup:
 

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I dont know about Trump. The guy ran several companies into bankruptcy, including a casino. Is that the guy we want driving us out of debt? On the other hand, he has some good ideas. :thumbsup:

This hasn't come up much ...... yet. But, in the months ahead it will be major news.

Several states, possible as many as 8, have passed legislation requiring canidates to provide indispuitable documentation and proof that they, indeed, are legal, natural citizens of the US.

ie. A birth certificate.
Not a certificate of live birth.

I am proud to report my state is one of those states!
Its going to be hilarious when those 8 states accept his documentation. :laughing::laughing:
 

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I dont know about Trump. The guy ran several companies into bankruptcy, including a casino. Is that the guy we want driving us out of debt?
I don't think this will hurt him. He is a lifelong entrepreneur who has started and built many companies. There is a lot of risk in starting any business, and if you do lots of them, some will not work out. Bankruptcy is there to deal with that. This country is stronger because people took risks and weren't afraid to fail. Bankruptcy will certainly be brought up, but I don't think it will stick as a negative.
Having said that, I will be very surprised if he gets the Republican nomination.
 

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If Obama didn't show proof that he is an American citizen, how did his name ever get onto a ballot? :huh:
 

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If Obama didn't show proof that he is an American citizen, how did his name ever get onto a ballot? :huh:
Got a better question, How does a Senator from IL. that only votes "Present" get elected POTUS? :lookinup:

Answer: It all in how you tell the story! :surprised
 

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I want someone to answer my question because I've never understood this argument. What proof did he show? He had to show something and it must have been legitimate. If that is the case, why is this an issue???
 

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I want someone to answer my question because I've never understood this argument. What proof did he show? He had to show something and it must have been legitimate. If that is the case, why is this an issue???


Barack Obama citizenship conspiracy theoriesFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:

Conspiracy theories about the citizenship of Barack Obama hold that Barack Obama is not a natural born citizen of the United States and is therefore not eligible to be President of the United States under Article Two of the United States Constitution. Proponents of these theories are often known as birthers.

Some of these conspiracy theories allege that Obama was born in Kenya, not Hawaii, or that his birth certificate is a forgery. Others allege that Obama became a citizen of Indonesia and lost his United States citizenship, or that because he had dual citizenship at birth (British and American), he cannot be a natural born citizen of the United States.

These conspiracy theories received attention in mid-2008 following Obama's victory in the Democratic primaries, in late 2008–early 2009 with regard to the Electoral College vote and Obama's inauguration, and in late 2010 when Hawaii's recently elected governor, Neil Abercrombie, said he would like to release more information about Obama's birth, to dispel the rumors.[3] Abercrombie abandoned that effort in early 2011 because privacy laws barred him from releasing a person's birth documentation without that person's consent.[4][5]

These claims are promoted by a number of fringe theorists and political opponents, some of whom filed lawsuits that sought to disqualify Obama from running for, or being confirmed as, President, or to obtain additional proof that he is qualified. All of the cases have been rejected in lower courts.[6] Three post-election suits were dismissed by the Supreme Court of the United States.[7][8] Although Obama was confirmed as president-elect by Congress on January 8, 2009,[9] and sworn in as President on January 20,[10] litigation continued into his presidency. The term "birthers" parallels[11] the nickname "truthers" for adherents of 9/11 conspiracy theories.[12]

In 2008, the Obama campaign released his birth certificate, certified by the Hawaii Department of Health, and posted a scanned image of it online. The posted certificate states that Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, on August 4, 1961.[1] The certificate also states, "This copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding". Frequent arguments of those questioning Obama's eligibility are that he has not released a photocopy of his "original" or "long form" birth certificate, but rather a redacted "short form" version. It has also been claimed that the use of the term "certification of live birth" on the document means it is not equivalent to one's "birth certificate". These arguments have been debunked numerous times by media investigations,[13] every judicial forum that has addressed the matter, and Hawaiian government officials—a consensus of whom have concluded that the certificate released by the Obama campaign is indeed his official birth certificate.[14] Asked about this, Hawaiian Department of Health spokeswoman Janice Okubo stated that Hawaii "does not have a short-form or long-form certificate".[15] Moreover, the director of her Department has confirmed that the state "has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures".[16][17]

In 1961, birth notices for Barack Obama were published in both the Honolulu Advertiser and the Honolulu Star-Bulletin on August 13 and August 14, 1961, respectively, listing the home address of Obama's parents as 6085 Kalanianaole Highway in Honolulu.[18][19] On November 9, 2008, in response to the persistent rumors, the Advertiser posted on its web site a screenshot of the announcement taken from its microfilmed archives. Such notices were sent to newspapers routinely by the Hawaii Department of Health.[18]

Nevertheless, some Republican elected officials have expressed skepticism about Obama's citizenship or have displayed a lack of willingness to acknowledge it,[20] while Republican members of the U.S. Congress and state assemblies have proposed and voted for legislation that would require presidential candidates to provide documentation of their qualifications to be president, including natural-born citizenship. Additionally, polls conducted in 2010 suggested that more than a quarter of adult Americans doubted Obama's U.S. birth
 
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