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For the second time in three days, an attempt to force action on enabling legislation for a new Detroit River crossing has failed.

On the final day of session, a Thursday effort by Senate Democrats to discharge the bill from committee fell short of needed votes, leaving the issue to now wait for the new Legislature and Gov. Rick Snyder’s administration.

House Bill 4961 has been lodged in the Senate Transportation Committee since its House passage in May.

The chances of the much-debated legislation coming up for a vote in the Republican-controlled Senate this week were slim given last month’s statement by Senate Majority Leader Mike Bishop, R-Rochester, that the Senate would not take up the bill and the issue would wait for the next administration.

An attempt at an initial discharge motion this week was made Tuesday, by Sen. Ray Basham, D-Taylor, but the motion was then postponed for that day. The subsequent vote on the motion came today.

The legislation would allow the Michigan Department of Transportation to enter into public-private partnerships, which are proposed to build the $5.3 billion Detroit River International Crossing.

As Crain’s reporter Bill Shea has reported, DRIC proponents say the U.S.- Canadian bridge is needed to create jobs, bolster U.S.-Canada trade, and provide redundancy if other border crossings are closed.

Ambassador Bridge owner Manuel Moroun opposes the project as unneeded and unfair competition and is trying to twin his span, a privately financed $1 billion project that Canada opposes.

In a statement, Manuel Moroun’s son Matthew Moroun, vice chairman of the Detroit International Bridge Co. that operates the Ambassador Bridge, said “today’s actions in the Senate only reinforce that the DRIC project is dead.

“We realize many bureaucrats in Michigan and Canada don’t like it, but those are the facts. It’s time for those bureaucrats to stop interfering with the Ambassador Bridge’s construction of its privately funded second span and work cooperatively to improve the existing international crossing, while creating much-needed jobs and economic growth in our region.”


Why Billionaire Matty Moroun Is One of the Worst Corporate Citizens Ever
A Michigan billionaire stands in the way of a new bridge needed to kickstart Detroit's deteriorated economy.

Michigan's economic future is at stake right now, in the state Senate. If you think times are bad, imagine what they'd be without the billions in trade that move across the Detroit River every year.

The vast majority of it moves across the Ambassador Bridge, which was built in 1929, is wearing out, and is not adequate for today's monster trucks and the vast payloads they carry. Heavy tractor-trailers can't go through the tunnel. There is essentially no backup route other than Port Huron or Buffalo, and our trade transportation system is being held hostage by one man, an arrogant billionaire named Manuel Moroun.

Now, we have the best chance ever to fix this. Everybody who understands this issue knows that we need to build a new bridge — and we have a golden opportunity to do so.

Meet the proposed new Detroit River International River Crossing, DRIC for short, to be built two miles downriver from the Ambassador. DRIC would be jointly owned by the United States and Canada, funded partly by private investors, and enable us to meet the trade, transportation and security issues of this century.

The United States wants this bridge. The government of Canada needs it. Republicans like Oakland County Executive L. Brooks Patterson are behind it. So are the Ford Motor Co. and the Detroit Regional Chamber of Commerce. In Ohio, where the economy is closely linked to Michigan and Canada, the GOP-controlled state Senate passed a resolution supporting DRIC — unanimously.

Democrats like Gov. Jennifer Granholm want the bridge. So does state Rep. Rashida Tlaib, a young Muslim woman who represents the area that also includes the Ambassador Bridge. The Detroit News supports it; so, at long last, does the Free Press.

Michigan wouldn't even have to pay a cent. Knowing how cash-strapped and divided our state government now is, Canada made an astounding offer last month: They'll pay our share of the start-up costs needed, as much as $550 million. Later, when the DRIC bridge is up and running, they'll get it back out of the tolls.

What's more, experts say building the DRIC could create as many as 10,000 construction jobs. Voting for this should be the easiest decision our term-limited state legislators ever will have to make. Except for one thing. One man opposes the bridge. Manuel "Matty" Moroun, a short, squat, octogenarian billionaire. After arguing for years that a new span wasn't needed, Matty abruptly changed his mind and said he would build a new bridge.

Right next, that is, to his old one.

Yet Canada has made it clear they won't allow him to do that. They won't give him the permits. Nor, for that matter, will the United States — the U.S. Coast Guard rejected his application last March. Indeed, two bridges in the same place would be an environmental, security and highway-clogging disaster.

This seems to have thrown Moroun into a desperate frenzy. He clearly cannot bear the thought of losing his monopoly. What makes this so puzzling is why he should care. Nobody is talking about taking the Ambassador Bridge away from him. What in hell does Matty have to fear? Moroun is worth much more than a billion dollars. He has only one son, and, to put it gently and delicately, the Old Man is far from immortal.

He turns 83 this month. That means that even if they started the DRIC tomorrow, Matty might easily be dirt-napping before the damn thing is done years from now. My guess is that he's banking that he can keep his evil self going, as he always has, through greed and the excitement of filing lawsuits and fighting for more power and money.

But why would anyone buy into this?

Why are some members of the state Senate acting as his lackeys and stoutly defending preserving his monopoly control? Largely because Manuel J. Moroun understands the fine art of throwing money around, sometimes as campaign contributions, sometimes, the whispers say, in subtler ways

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DETROIT—Billionaire businessman Manuel "Matty" Moroun is poised to move a step closer to tightening his control of traffic across the Detroit River, one of the continent's busiest and most economically vital border crossings.

Mr. Moroun, whose Detroit International Bridge Co. owns the Ambassador Bridge connecting Detroit and Windsor, Ontario, is expected this week to win approval from Canadian customs authorities for a key part of his plan to build a second span over the same stretch of water. By contrast, plans for a competing, publicly owned bridge have stalled amid concerns over the potential cost to taxpayers.

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Manuel "Matty" Moroun
.At stake are tens of millions of dollars of annual toll revenue and a critical link in the U.S. auto industry's supply chain.

Customs authorities' go-ahead for a new bridge plaza to be developed by Mr. Moroun—including toll booths and customs-inspection buildings—would all but clear the way for his company to seek a final environmental permit from the Canadian transportation department to build the new six-lane bridge, adjacent to the existing one. The permit is one of the few regulatory hurdles remaining before construction can begin.

"This was the big enchilada," Mr. Moroun's son Matt, vice chairman of the bridge company, said in an interview. "We are now 80% of the way there."

Some $1.2 billion worth of goods cross the U.S.-Canada border each day, a quarter of that over the Ambassador Bridge. Much of the traffic is trucks carrying auto parts or finished vehicles between the two countries.Chrysler Group LLC, which has factories in Windsor and Detroit, moves more than 1,300 shipments across the border daily.

Last year's traffic flow of 6.4 million cars and trucks generated about $60 million of annual toll revenue for the Morouns' bridge company.

The public project, meanwhile, has broad backing from U.S. and Canadian officials and from the Michigan Department of Transportation. But despite pleas from Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm and an offer from Canada to subsidize the state's construction costs, Michigan's Senate adjourned this month without voting on a bill to advance the plan.

Political and business leaders on both sides of the border see a new bridge as an essential backup to the Ambassador, which opened in 1929. Their preferred route is the six-lane Detroit River International Crossing, or DRIC, a project that would cost about $5.3 billion. The DRIC would cross the river about three miles south of the Ambassador and would be built and operated by a public-private partnership.

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A U.S. Customs officer at the Ambassador Bridge in Detroit in 2008. Its owner is expected to build a second link over the same stretch of water.
.Backers of the DRIC say it would open in January 2016 and generate $70 million of toll revenue during its first year, while speeding the flow of goods between the U.S. and Canada. The Morouns' twinning plan, they say, wouldn't add enough capacity because it would involve mothballing the older span.

To build support for the DRIC, Canada has offered to pay up to $550 million of Michigan's construction costs, which it expects to recoup through tolls.

But the DRIC can't move forward until Michigan's state Senate passes a bill authorizing the creation of the public-private company. Only then can Michigan's transportation department begin acquiring land and building infrastructure, a process that could take years.

Republican state Sen. Jud Gilbert, chairman of the transportation committee, said he won't bring the bill to a vote until it sufficiently protects the state if toll revenue falls short. "We are working to try and construct some legislation that ensures the taxpayer won't be on the hook," he said.

That puts the Morouns' timeline well ahead of the DRIC. They control huge swaths of land in Southwest Detroit and have already invested $500 million in upgraded access roads and toll plazas on both sides of the border. That infrastructure is built, though it remains closed pending resolution of a property dispute in Detroit.

The Morouns propose to build a new six-lane span and then close the old four-lane span for refurbishment. It would reopen only to accommodate overflow traffic. Matt Moroun says his company would cover all construction costs and could open the new span in as little as three years after receiving Canadian approval.

With the bridge-plaza go-ahead in hand, his company could seek the final environmental permit within a couple of months. "Best case, we would get the permit sometime this year. Worst case, we would have to wait until next year," Mr. Moroun said.

James Kusie, spokesman for the Canadian transport minister, said there is no specific time frame for a permit approval. He added that the Canadian government still strongly favors the DRIC. "We believe it is in the public interest to construct a new Detroit River crossing that is subject to appropriate public oversight," he said.

Mr. Gilbert said he hasn't given up on the DRIC either. He said he is continuing to work on a revised bill, but declined to say when it might be introduced. He added that if Mr. Moroun begins erecting a second span before the DRIC project gets moving, the entire issue of a new bridge would be up for reconsideration."


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Couldn't read the whole thing, but I scanned all three sections.

Here is what I take away from this, coupled with my own empirical observations regarding construction projectrs of this magnitude and size.

1: Once again the gubmint over-analyzed the whole damned thing and paralyzed itself right out of the competition.

2: Since the gubmint is 'in charge' ultimatley, why don't they just decline the permits rquired and go ahead and do it thier way?

Because the gubmint can't get out of it's own way and figure out how to go about appropriating a budget that they could maintain without incredible delays in milestones and cost overuns resulting from them.

Once again an example of the absolute retardedness of the gubmint when it come to competing with private companies.

3: Detroit and Michigan probably don't have the money in the coiffers to begin funding the project in the first place.

I love hearing stories about the free market kicking the bureaucrats asses every time.

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I find it hilarious that you post in other threads that you won't provide links because no one reads them. Then, you post a thread title that Capitalism has failed, but your links demonstrate that this isn't a market failure, but is a failure of the mixed economy.

Don't you even read YOUR links? How could you read those articles, then conclude that the problem is capitalism, when it is clear that this entire thing isn't about capitalism, but is really about the state run economy?


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I find it hilarious that you post in other threads that you won't provide links because no one reads them. Then, you post a thread title that Capitalism has failed, but your links demonstrate that this isn't a market failure, but is a failure of the mixed economy.

Don't you even read YOUR links? How could you read those articles, then conclude that the problem is capitalism, when it is clear that this entire thing isn't about capitalism, but is really about the state run economy?

I'm kinda crunched for time here..
This is an incomplete post..

I cannot find it right now, but it's been on the news and is common knowledge by locals that the current bridge owner is blocking the passage of a new bridge built by other private interests and we have bribes and other crimiinal matters involved.

Like Vettenewb says.....

It's not real capitalism when the game is rigged.

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Like Vettenewb says.....

It's not real capitalism when the game is rigged.
Then why keep calling it capitalism? When it's fascism? Free market means, free from interference. Once you tinker with the market, it becomes something closer to state capitalism or fascism.

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Been gone for a while, but it's good to jump back on and see that cooler heads are still prevailing against the libby's! :thumbsup:

People, we haven't had a true free market for nearly 100-years! Many things have happened to cause that... the federal reserve, and the end of the gold standard, just to name a couple. What we're seeing today is not the result of this or that politician in the last few decades... this downward slide was started loooooooooong ago! ;)

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Once you tinker with the market, it becomes something closer to state capitalism or fascism.
Or fraud and grand theft......:agree:


Do Nothing Legislature should take up DRIC in lame duck
Published: Friday, November 26, 2010, 8:41 AM Updated: Saturday, November 27, 2010, 10:05 AM
Susan J. Demas
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We live in a time in which people are profoundly skeptical of our government.

So leaders in the Michigan Legislature have decided to buoy your trust by essentially taking the rest of the year off. The Senate is scheduled to sign off on Dec. 2 and the House on Dec. 9.

Share 3 Comments Both bodies have only met a handful of times since the election, and that was to pass important legislation like authorizing heirloom birth certificates.

Actually, this lackadaisical work schedule started in the summer so folks could run for re-election (or some other office if term-limited), with a brief interlude to pass a budget by Oct. 1. Then it was back to hitting the campaign trail.

Now some self-serving politicians will lay on the line that "I think people would be relieved that we're not here messing things up." While that certainly is a brilliant campaign slogan, and anyone who uses it certainly deserves to make $70,000 as a member of the Legislature, it's also a bunch of crap.

They're not striking a blow for the anti-government cause. They're showing their utter contempt for their jobs and the taxpayers -- "We the people" who pay them.

Last time I checked, Michigan was still in pretty rough shape with more than 12 percent unemployment, a holy mess of a business tax and dozens of failing schools.

Why in the world wouldn't we want legislators to be working on these and scores of other problems?

The lame answer is that we're in lame duck and we should just leave these issues (no matter how long they've been debated) to the next governor and Legislature. Indeed, gov-to-be Rick Snyder appears to share this philosophy. (When he discovers he can't just wave his magic wand and make his 10-point plan appear next year, he may have second thoughts).

It's true that about half the Legislature won't be returning in January. But we're still paying them handsomely until then, so why don't we get our money's worth?

Especially given the fact that most new lawmakers will spend half of 2011 just trying to locate the bathrooms and figure out which lobbyists will buy the best bottle of Chardonnay at Troppo.

So while legislators are wasting our tax dollars trying to find new jobs, bagging bucks or working on their tans, they could be changing the gas tax to provide transportation funding for crumbling roads, funding Pure Michigan to boost tourism, enacting a health care pooling plan for public employees and rejiggering the tax structure so it makes sense.

Of course, none of those things are easy. But here's something that is.

The Detroit River International Crossing (DRIC) -- a second bridge connecting Michigan and Ontario -- is estimated to create up to 40,000 jobs, 10,000 immediately.

Everyone knows it's going to be built. It's just a matter if Michigan wants those jobs or if we let the Canadians have them all. And that's what will happen if we continue to nap and pretend that a private bridge can be built by Matty Moroun, owner of the dilapidated Ambassador Bridge.

It can't. The Canadians have nixed the idea. So let's move on to reality -- the DRIC -- which will involve both government and private money.

Look, the Canadians want it. The U.S. government wants it. The GOP-led Ohio Senate wants it. Oakland County Executive L. Brooks Patterson wants it. Former Gov. John Engler wants it. So does the Detroit Regional Chamber of Commerce.

The only Republicans who don't want it are in the Michigan Legislature. Completely coincidentally, they and some of their Democratic allies in Detroit have raked in big bucks from one Matty Moroun.

This is a pretty safe investment for taxpayers. Michigan wouldn't even be on the hook for the money for DRIC, thanks to the Canadian government.

And this isn't socialism run amok. Private companies, including Moroun's, would have a crack at bidding for the new bridge project, since it's a public-private partnership. That's a concept real Republicans used to embrace.

But logic has no place in the DRIC debate. Outgoing House Minority Leader Kevin Elsenheimer (R-Kewadin) has tearfully declared that it's all a fit of jealousy against Moroun, the poor oppressed billionaire who owns eyesores like the once grand Michigan Central Station he refuses to tear down. (Sadly, Kevvy lost his judicial race, so perhaps Matty can find him a job).

Anyway, the DRIC legislation has been passed by the House and Sen. Jud Gilbert (R-Algonac) has a compromise. Alas, he's been muzzled by soon-to-be unemployed Senate Majority Leader Mike Bishop (R-Rochester), who promised a vote on DRIC and cowardly reneged.

Sen. Ray Basham, one of the saner members of the Senate (who, of course, is term-limited), is going for a hail Mary pass next week. He's going to call for the a vote on DRIC on the floor. When this happens, most members blindly vote with their party. But being as 29 senators will soon be unemployed with nothing to lose, maybe they can put their state first.

Last time I checked, we could use the 10,000 jobs from DRIC a lot more than the Canadians. So let's all call our vacationing senators and tell them to do something when they roll back into town.

The new reality
Mike Bishop has no problem costing us jobs to please political patron
By Jack Lessenberry

Published: November 17, 2010

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Senate Majority Leader Mike Bishop, an ambitious politician on the make with a law degree, a real estate license and grease in his hair, is more than happy to cost this region tens of thousands of mostly high-paying jobs, just to please one greedy, aging billionaire.

What's worse is that he is getting away with it, because he can, thanks to a corrupt Legislature and apathetic public. To pull this off, he also had to lie to the people, but he couldn't care less about that.

Last May, Bishop promised an up-or-down vote on legislation that, if approved, would allow a public-private partnership to build a badly needed new bridge across the Detroit River to move forward. Then, this month, he said, too bad. He wouldn't keep his word, and he wouldn't let the Senate vote. He was worried, you see, that they might act with the public's best interests in mind.

Bishop has always been against anything progressive, especially if big business or insurance interests wanted him to be. He tried to block the restaurant smoking ban until even his fellow Republicans revolted against him.

Naturally, he wanted to stop the new bridge, the Detroit River International Crossing. True, the new bridge is badly needed. Currently, billions of dollars in heavy manufacturing components move between Michigan and Ontario over the Ambassador Bridge, which was built in 1929, is not made for today's giant tractor-trailer trucks, and is in need of serious repair.�

There's also little security to speak of, and one fanatic with a bomb could plunge our state and Canada's biggest province into an authentic depression. But none of that is important to Bishop. What matters to him is that Matty Moroun, the 83-year-old billionaire who owns the Ambassador Bridge, doesn't want anybody infringing on his monopoly; to protect it, he has shelled out vast sums to legislators, mostly Republicans, in the form of campaign donations. And that's only the money we know about. Moroun has also given money for legislative parties, Senate caucus events, and he is utterly ruthless.

Last month, Jeff Gaudette, a Canadian who had worked for the Ambassador Bridge for 20 years, ran for a seat on the Windsor City Council. He lost. So Moroun fired him. "I've been bullied by the biggest bully in town," said Gaudette. Actually, Gaudette, a steward for a Teamsters local, was directly fired not by Moroun, but by his chief henchman, Dan Stamper — who did so via speakerphone.

Gaudette's real crime was evidently not losing, though he thinks he would have kept his job ("those guys would be kissing my butt") if he had won. He thinks he was really fired for bringing attention to a crack in the concrete on the Canadian side. That's a hanging offense in Morounland. "I'm not an engineer, but I think we need to look at the bridge and the safety of it," Gaudette told the Windsor Star.

By the way, does it seem odd to you that our nation's most important border crossing should be owned and totally controlled by one shadowy businessman? If not, I'd say you are either spending too much time reading Ayn Rand or are receiving handouts from Matty Moroun.

Or, you might be Mike Bishop. He did offer a flimsy excuse for breaking his word and not allowing a vote: He said the Michigan Department of Transportation hadn't supplied him with enough information. MDOT said this was nonsense.

The Canadians were offended. They, after all, have gone out on a limb to make sure Michigan has nothing to lose. Canada knows how important a new bridge is to both nations' economic futures. Ottawa also knows how cash-strapped Michigan is right now, and stunned onlookers by announcing it would cover Michigan's share of the costs, as much as $550 million. We could repay it later via tolls.

That forced Bishop and his equally contemptible understudy, Senate Majority Floor Leader Alan Cropsey, to claim this might infringe on our national sovereignty, and make other ridiculous arguments. Their fellow Republican, Senate Transportation Committee Chair Jud Gilbert, was working on a bill that would allow the DRIC bridge and allay any of those fears — when Bishop stopped the process.

Nobody has to look far for the reason why: According to the Detroit News and the respected Gongwer News Service: "Moroun and his family gave more than $400,000 this year to candidates and political action committees, and a significant portion of that went to committees controlled by Bishop, committees helping Senate Republicans or Bishop's unsuccessful campaign for attorney general."

The Detroit Regional Chamber of Commerce is generally a pro-business, pro-Republican organization, not given to emotion or sentiment. They know what Bishop has done to the region. "We're disappointed Bishop is blocking the creation of up to 35,000 jobs in the Detroit region, but we will continue to push for the DRIC bridge," said Sarah Hubbard, the chamber's senior vice president for government relations, adding, "This project has been debated for at least 10 years — there is no reason to delay any longer."

The chamber believes that there's no risk to the taxpayers. The tolls, Hubbard said, "would be more than enough to repay bonds used to build it and maintain and operate the bridge."

There may still be a glimmer of hope. The lame-duck session of the Legislature lasts a couple more weeks. If voters protest vigorously enough, the other senators could force Bishop to allow something called democracy to occur in the chamber. Or possibly not. Term limits mean most are leaving forever in January, and some may want a job from Moroun. Meanwhile, Bishop is reportedly scheming to run for Oakland County prosecutor in 2012. Remember who he is, if and when he does run for anything. Remember the 35,000 jobs that could have been created.

And this time, get off your asses and do something about it.


Bought and paid for
Moroun's millions and Mike Bishop's flip-flop

By Jack Lessenberry

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State Senate Majority Leader Mike Bishop would have been regarded as an honest politician by at least one member of Abraham Lincoln's cabinet. Secretary of War Simon Cameron is now mostly remembered for saying, "an honest politician is one who, when he is bought, stays bought." Cameron himself, incidentally, was a man so corrupt that he was soon thrown out of the government, even in those wheeler-dealer war profiteering times. (Naturally, he returned to the U.S. Senate.)

But back to our hero, greasy Mike. Last May he promised an up-or-down vote on the much-needed proposal to build a new, internationally owned bridge over the Detroit River. Last week, he went back on his word, indicating there wouldn't be any vote this year. Reason? "It's just too complicated, too involved. There are too many outstanding legal issues to get it done," he told Gongwer News Service, which, unlike today's newspapers, really does an excellent job covering what's going on in the state Capitol. (Unfortunately, like more and more valuable information, it is available only to those who pay handsomely for its reports.)

The idea that legal issues stand in the way of a vote on the Detroit River International Crossing (DRIC) is garbage. Bishop's announcement caught Republican state Sen. Jud Gilbert, the transportation committee chair, by surprise. Gilbert was working behind the scenes to craft a compromise DRIC that could pass the Senate.

This is not an issue, by the way, that divides most Republicans and Democrats. Most influential Republicans want the DRIC. Business needs this bridge. Ford Motor Company supports the bridge. So do Chrysler and General Motors. Oakland County Executive L. Brooks Patterson — whose gods are growth, job creation and development — supports the bridge.

The Detroit Regional Chamber of Commerce, which is pretty much a wing of the GOP, wants and needs DRIC. Sarah Hubbard, the chamber's senior vice president for government relations, aka head lobbyist, was stunned by Bishop's fiat.

"We think there is a strong possibility this legislation will be acceptable to those who need to vote on it by the end of the year," she said. This is a no-brainer. It would cost Michigan nothing — Canada would advance us the up-front money. DRIC would create 10,000 badly needed jobs, half or more in Michigan.

Actually, everybody is on board with the new bridge. Everybody, except one malevolent, bloated, aged billionaire: Manuel J. Moroun, who owns the Ambassador Bridge.

Everybody except Moroun, and those he buys.

The bridge, built in 1929, is wearing out. Billions of dollars in trade pour across it every year, and there is no backup system. Heavy manufacturing components can't go through the tunnel. The closest other bridges — in Port Huron and Buffalo, N.Y., — are overburdened.

For years, nobody knew the true condition of the bridge, because Matty wouldn't tell us. Last year, however, a U.S. safety inspection report found the main span in "poor condition," with cracked, unsound concrete that has chipped away to expose, as the Windsor Star reported, "significantly corroded reinforcing steel."

Moroun says he wants a second bridge next to the Ambassador. But the government of Canada has said a flat no. Environmental and traffic flow issues make that a very bad idea.

Right now, if something happened to the Ambassador Bridge, the economies of Michigan and Ontario would be plunged into depression. The idea that there is no backup is, well, crazy.

But there isn't. Actually, the idea of an individual owning a major international crossing is pretty nuts, when you think about it. Not that anyone is proposing taking it away from him.

What makes sense is a second bridge a couple miles downstream. But that would end Moroun's monopoly. Even though, at 83, he is as old as dirt and has more money than he can count, he is determined not to let that happen.

So he has been openly buying politicians. Naturally, it's not called that. He has been "contributing" to the campaigns and causes of those who are willing to do his bidding on the bridge.

Those include, not surprisingly, Mike Bishop. The Morouns recently gave $30,000 to the (state) Senate Republican Campaign Committee. Later, their Capitol Affairs political action committee turned over $20,000 to Bishop's campaign for attorney general.

Fortunately, even Moroun's cash couldn't persuade the Republicans to give Bishop the nomination. He'll be gone from Lansing in January, praise Jesus, Shiva and their buddies. But Bishop is staying loyal to Moroun, and not to the people he represents, or Michigan. He was bought, and he has stayed bought, maybe in the hope Matty will give him a job.

Simon Cameron, the corrupt Lincoln official, would be very pleased with our Mikey, though in reality, there was very little evidence that Cameron lived up to his principles and stayed bought.

Once, trying to think of something nice to say about him, a congressman said, "I don't think he would steal a red-hot stove."

Later, when Cameron complained, the congressman said, "I will now take that back."

Actually, I don't think Bishop would sell the people of Michigan out for a red-hot stove, either. Of course, it's not winter yet.

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That's a beautiful building. Too bad it's in the middle of nothing and nowhere -anybody would want to visit.

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I spelled coming with two m's again...:rolleyes:

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if everyone bought a vette they wouldnt have to worry about transporting automobile goods across the damn bridge lol
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