[blkvette94]

I'm laying the plans for buying a used C6 and supercharging it. Looking online no one seems to post real dyno numbers on their sites (or they do but use alcohol).

What I'm looking for is real costs and HP/TQ ratings from a supercharged C6. If you have real experiences or a good link with real numbers I'd love to hear from you!

thanks in advance.

 

[bdevault01]

I will send you the dyno sheet from my Edelbrock supercharged Grand Sport C6. Check your PM.

 

[blkvette94]

I will send you the dyno sheet from my Edelbrock supercharged Grand Sport C6. Check your PM.

awesome!

 

[GS81vett]

I will send you the dyno sheet from my Edelbrock supercharged Grand Sport C6. Check your PM.

Could you post those numbers or send them to me I would love to see them. I am looking at doing the same thing on mine. :thumbsup:

 

[Doug @ ECS]

I'm laying the plans for buying a used C6 and supercharging it. Looking online no one seems to post real dyno numbers on their sites (or they do but use alcohol).

What I'm looking for is real costs and HP/TQ ratings from a supercharged C6. If you have real experiences or a good link with real numbers I'd love to hear from you!

thanks in advance.

We are revamping our entire site so we will have a lot more graphs and video's up soon, but for this discussion our average C6 without alky will be left at 550/540 RWhp/tq. C6Z's are left around 600/600 rwhp/tq.

More power can be made very easily, but we leave it there for longevity if the additional octane is not there from alky injection.
Note the tq of our kit over other centrifugal kits on the market, it is one of the major reasons why we produce the fastest supercharged Corvettes with our system. While still leaving you with the expandability, and lack of heat soaking of a roots style blower.

Hope that helps. :cheers:

 

[77vette05]

A+A kit here on an 05' auto. There one of our sponsors to the left of your screen. The car made 573 rwhp 495 rwtq on 93 octane and 6psi of alky. This was an conservative tune as well. Hope this can help, my dyno sheet is in my profile's photo's. Good luck

 

[07 Z51]

To the OP, if you want a used C6 that is already supercharged, check the FS postings here and at the other forum. Some good deals to be found. If you want one done right, make me an offer I can't refuse so I am forced to buy a ZR1 or ZL1 Camaro (either of which I will promptly deliver to ECS)

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_k-_3RzKDQig/S-whXP6D9NI/AAAAAAAAD58/nwtNMhDtuQQ/s640/Ira.jpg

This is a graph from my car, mods in the signature. Take meth injection out and add a safe non-meth tune and I am down about 100 hpr. Still, 615 whp is nothing to be unhappy about.......

Call ECS, drop off the car and be prepared to have your sphincter pucker the first time you mat the throttle.

Then you can go and have fun with your friends, like this......

 

[blkvette94]

We are revamping our entire site so we will have a lot more graphs and video's up soon, but for this discussion our average C6 without alky will be left at 550/540 RWhp/tq. C6Z's are left around 600/600 rwhp/tq.

More power can be made very easily, but we leave it there for longevity if the additional octane is not there from alky injection.
Note the tq of our kit over other centrifugal kits on the market, it is one of the major reasons why we produce the fastest supercharged Corvettes with our system. While still leaving you with the expandability, and lack of heat soaking of a roots style blower.

Hope that helps. :cheers:

It helps but it is a little offputting. I understand the desire for reliability.. but I'm wanting Zr1 power. That means 638 HP/604TQ. Really would like to touch 700..
I figure in about a year when I pull the trigger I'll have around $10-12K to put the engine into the 650HP range with non exotic fuels.


What I'm trying to determine is initial purchase requirements. Do I have to go for the 427 Z06 to start with or can I make that from a LS3 with some modifications? and what are the cost of those mods? I can do the mechanics myself-- except machine work..

Here's the thought so far-- Right now an 08 LS3 with 3LT and Mag ride, manual (15-20K miles) can be found for around $35K In a year it should be around $28-30. the same year condition Z06 is around $55K and most of them hold the pricing so i'm guessing around $51K in a year
.. yes I know the subtle diffs of the Z06 body and engine trans. Other part of the plan is the ZR1X body upgrade with custom paint and other things to make it "mine". Still ending up around $55K but not looking or being like every other Z06.

 

[Vetter 1]

ECS Supercharger

Chris, Doug and the entire crew from ECS exceeded my expectation on my install of a Paxton Novi 1500 on my LS3. The install took less than 3 days including the tuning. The new found power got me in trouble at every track I've gone to.

Cecil County Dragway 10.49 @ 138.86 1.75 60'
Click on photo for the video:

 

[Geneus]

It helps but it is a little offputting. I understand the desire for reliability.. but I'm wanting Zr1 power. That means 638 HP/604TQ. Really would like to touch 700..
I figure in about a year when I pull the trigger I'll have around $10-12K to put the engine into the 650HP range with non exotic fuels.


What I'm trying to determine is initial purchase requirements. Do I have to go for the 427 Z06 to start with or can I make that from a LS3 with some modifications? and what are the cost of those mods? I can do the mechanics myself-- except machine work..

Here's the thought so far-- Right now an 08 LS3 with 3LT and Mag ride, manual (15-20K miles) can be found for around $35K In a year it should be around $28-30. the same year condition Z06 is around $55K and most of them hold the pricing so i'm guessing around $51K in a year
.. yes I know the subtle diffs of the Z06 body and engine trans. Other part of the plan is the ZR1X body upgrade with custom paint and other things to make it "mine". Still ending up around $55K but not looking or being like every other Z06.

Ahh...the ZR1 power you are quoting is at the engine...the dyno graphs Doug has supplied are at the rear wheels...BIG Difference!:surprised Take 10% (as a conservative number) of the dyno readings and add that to the dyno results and you are at near ZR1 power levels.:thumbsup:

 

[blkvette94]

Ahh...the ZR1 power you are quoting is at the engine...the dyno graphs Doug has supplied are at the rear wheels...BIG Difference!:surprised Take 10% (as a conservative number) of the dyno readings and add that to the dyno results and you are at near ZR1 power levels.:thumbsup:

Makes sense if RWHP shown-- now next thought is power across the band.

This link
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forum...on/223039-nice-stock-c6-zr1-dyno-results.html

makes the Zr1 look like it stays above 500 tq all the way through from about 2700-5700. Which is a lot more streetable than getting there around 4200-5700. Not knock ECS just looking at real world power. For me it's about the curve not the max number. I have proof of this from my Dinan 540. Lower numbers overall but ran circles around some cars coming in at 100HP more on a bonzai course.

 

[livnup]

Makes sense if RWHP shown-- now next thought is power across the band.

This link
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forum...on/223039-nice-stock-c6-zr1-dyno-results.html

makes the Zr1 look like it stays above 500 tq all the way through from about 2700-5700. Which is a lot more streetable than getting there around 4200-5700. Not knock ECS just looking at real world power. For me it's about the curve not the max number. I have proof of this from my Dinan 540. Lower numbers overall but ran circles around some cars coming in at 100HP more on a bonzai course.

Question is why asked for power which will not be used, too much power low down makes it impossible to hook on the street, 4200 rpm is more or less the exact rpm the power is required to get it to the ground, well lets say thats the beauty with supercharger, slowly appling the power to the ground so it can be used properly.
Most of my friends with their ZR1 is having problems to get their car to hook low down, the car is a monster low down and as the saying goes, while you're spinning I am winning.

 

[blkvette94]

Question is why asked for power which will not be used, too much power low down makes it impossible to hook on the street, 4200 rpm is more or less the exact rpm the power is required to get it to the ground, well lets say thats the beauty with supercharger, slowly appling the power to the ground so it can be used properly.
Most of my friends with their ZR1 is having problems to get their car to hook low down, the car is a monster low down and as the saying goes, while you're spinning I am winning.

so their traction control doesn't work for them? I'm thinking of the computerized compensation for the traction control/mag ride and 335/25 tires.

This is why I am searching for real data not anecdotal evidence.. this time around.

 

[livnup]

so their traction control doesn't work for them? I'm thinking of the computerized compensation for the traction control/mag ride and 335/25 tires.

This is why I am searching for real data not anecdotal evidence.. this time around.

Yes traction Controll work but when the traction controll activates the car dies down and it goes into power loss mode for a short while, nobody wants there traction controll to activate while racing but in testing and driving its a safety.

 

[77vette05]

so their traction control doesn't work for them? I'm thinking of the computerized compensation for the traction control/mag ride and 335/25 tires.

This is why I am searching for real data not anecdotal evidence.. this time around.

From asking questions and doing research in my opinion, A+A supercharger kit builds power a little later, which helps my car get off the line faster. Even with power being built up later the traction control still has a hard time catching up with the car. Every car i have been in with 650+ engine power the traction control has a hard time. Doesn't matter what tire, unless you got slicks. so you have to ask your self do you want power right off the line, and start spinning or a little later when you have better traction. Also get rid of the run flats and you will have way better traction. Switched to hankook's and will never go back. You also mentioned not running exotic fuels? If your refuring to alky, its not just for power. It keeps your octane up, less detonation. keeps your motor clean, and cools your motor down. I did a lot of research on Alky before I went with it. From everything I read it is great for the motor.

 

[07 Z51]

Ahh...the ZR1 power you are quoting is at the engine...the dyno graphs Doug has supplied are at the rear wheels...BIG Difference!:surprised Take 10% (as a conservative number) of the dyno readings and add that to the dyno results and you are at near ZR1 power levels.:thumbsup:

WOW!! You are a genius.........

To the OP, ECS's base Paxton 1500 kit will deliver ZR1 power and performance. I wanted more than that and ended up with liter bike performance. All I had to do was have ECS add their meth injection kit.

The dyno graph is a tad misleading - remember, if you are drag racing, your car will never see below 4000 rpms other than at launch so ignore the dyno sheet from 4000 and below. With my gears, the car is rarely below 3000 so I am in big power all the time.

I dropped my car off at ECS Monday morning, received it Wednesday evening. Went in with 375 whpr, left with 715 whpr. Great experience and fantastic guys to work with.

Good luck with whatever you choose.

 

[Livingwater]

Everyone send me one $1.00

So I can super charge my vette

I just need 7000 friends

I will also return the favor if you want one too :thumbsup:

 

[2011ZR6X]

I prefer the TVS2300 setup... instant torque... The build I'm doing is an Eforce from Edelbrock, Kooks Headers, Kooks High Flow Cats, Custom 3.5" Single Pipe Exhaust, Custom Tuned... last one that Supervettes built this way (on a 2010 1LT) made 576.51 rwhp / 567.48 ft-lbs Torque... check it out:

(1st numbers are the stock eforce tune, 2nd #'s are the custom tune)

 

[Geneus]

I prefer the TVS2300 setup... instant torque... The build I'm doing is an Eforce from Edelbrock, Kooks Headers, Kooks High Flow Cats, Custom 3.5" Single Pipe Exhaust, Custom Tuned... last one that Supervettes built this way (on a 2010 1LT) made 576.51 rwhp / 567.48 ft-lbs Torque... check it out:

(1st numbers are the stock eforce tune, 2nd #'s are the custom tune)

Can you comment on the "un-corrected" listed in the dynograph at the very bottom? I'm confused.:huh: If those are un-corrected numbers then they are going to be misleading.