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Don't know if this news is getting around the rest of the country:

MADISON -- Governor Scott Walker today, Feb. 11, released details of his so-called 'budget repair' bill, which requires state employees to fund part of their pensions, among other actions aimed at narrowing the state's huge deficits.

“We must take immediate action to ensure fiscal stability in our state,” said Walker. “This budget repair bill will meet the immediate needs of our state and give government the tools to deal with this and future budget crises.”

He said the state is facing an immediate deficit of $137 million for the current fiscal year which ends July 1. In addition, bill collectors are waiting to collect over $225 million for a prior raid of the Patients’ Compensation Fund.

The budget repair bill will "balance the budget and lay the foundation for a long-term sustainable budget through several measures without raising taxes, raiding segregated funds, or using accounting gimmicks," he stated.

Walker's proposed bill drew harsh reaction from former State Representative and Senator Joe Wineke (D-Verona), who served as the state’s chief labor negotiator under Governor Jim Doyle and is a candidate for Dane County executive.

“Governor Walker’s announcement is nothing short of a full frontal assault on public employees and the vital services they provide to citizens in Dane County and across Wisconsin. Instead of tackling the serious fiscal challenges we face, Governor Walker has chosen to balance the budget squarely on the backs of state workers.

“Make no mistake about it, today’s actions will have far-reaching economic implications well beyond the state employees who will feel the immediate effects. Walker’s elimination of collective bargaining rights opens the door to wage and benefit cuts for every single government worker in Wisconsin – in every city, village, town, school and technical college district. And as expendable incomes diminish, businesses across the private sector will take an even greater hit. The results could be catastrophic.


“This announcement had nothing to do with job creation, economic development, or fiscal responsibility. It was a simple, but clear, declaration of war on Wisconsin’s government employees – and quite possibly the future of our economy. We can no longer afford the all-too-common ‘go along to get along’ attitude. It’s time to stand up and fight for public service in Wisconsin.”


Walker outline the 'repair bill' as follows:

State employees required to pay 5.8%


First, it will require state employees to pay about 5.8% toward their pension (about the private sector national average) and about 12% of their health care benefits (about half the private sector national average). These changes will help the state save $30 million in the last three months of the current fiscal year.

“It’s fair to ask public employees to make a pension payment of just over 5%, which is about the national average, and a premium payment of 12%, which is about half of the national average,” said Walker.

The budget repair will also restructure the state debt, lowering the state’s interest rate, saving the state $165 million, he said.

Further details of Walker's proposal

"These changes will help the state fulfill its Medicaid spending on needy families of about $170 million; funding that the previous administration did not have in its budget. It will also allow the state to spend an additional $21 million in the Department of Corrections.

"Additionally, the budget repair bill gives state and local governments the tools to manage spending reductions through changing some provisions of the state’s collective bargaining laws.

"The state’s civil service system, among the strongest in the country, would remain in place. State and local employees could continue to bargain for base pay, they would not be able to bargain over other compensation measures. Local police, fire and state patrol would be exempted from the changes. Other reforms will include state and local governments not collecting union dues, annual certification will be required in a secret ballot, and any employee can opt out of paying union dues.

A full summary of the Governor’s budget repair bill is below.

Fiscal Year 2010-11 Budget Adjustment Bill Items

If you want to read the whole story


It looks like my state is going to try to tackel the elephant in the room They are suposed to vote on this tomorrow and the "R's" say it has enough votes to pass

Just to add, Madison public schools are closed due to the amount of teachers calling in to go to the capital to protest :lookinup:
 

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"The state’s civil service system, among the strongest in the country, would remain in place. State and local employees could continue to bargain for base pay, they would not be able to bargain over other compensation measures. Local police, fire and state patrol would be exempted from the changes. Other reforms will include state and local governments not collecting union dues, annual certification will be required in a secret ballot, and any employee can opt out of paying union dues.
This is a good and sound first step in leveling the field. Open these jobs to the public. Remove the pay scale and open the bidding to the public for federal and state funded projects.
 

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This is a good and sound first step in leveling the field. Open these jobs to the public. Remove the pay scale and open the bidding to the public for federal and state funded projects.
I agree. No one ever wants a smaller take-home paycheck. But public employees need to donate as much to their retirement and health benefits as private employees do. My income is down in the last two years for the first time in my career, the same as many small businesses. When people have less disposable income, small businesses suffer. There is no reason public employees can't absorb a little of the pain instead of expecting taxpayers to foot 100% of the bill.
 

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You can say voting doesn't matter, but due to the fine voters of Wi. Since the election, Ryan and Walker have shown that their heads are on straight and are going to attempt to do what is right for the country and Wisconsin.

This bill will strike a nerve in all the unions. But this has to happen now vs later to produce the maximum tax savings. It will be interesting to see if the light goes on in other states after this passes :lookinup:
 

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Legislature's Joint Finance Committee passes budget bill Wednesday night 12-4
Measure moves to Senate and Assembly


MADISON (AP) - Thousands of teachers, students and prison guards descended on the Wisconsin Capitol on Wednesday to fight a move to strip government workers of union rights in the first state to grant them more than a half-century ago, but it cleared a major legislative hurdle without the changes they sought.

The Statehouse filled with as many as 10,000 demonstrators who chanted, sang the national anthem and beat drums for hours in demonstrations unlike any seen in Madison in decades. The noise in the rotunda rose to the level of a chainsaw, and many Madison teachers joined the protest by calling in sick in such numbers that the district - the state's second-largest - had to cancel classes.

The new Republican governor, Scott Walker, is seeking passage of the nation's most aggressive anti-union proposal, which was moving swiftly through the GOP-led Legislature. The body's budget committee passed the bill on a partisan vote just before midnight, clearing the way for the Senate and Assembly to vote on it starting Thursday.

Several opponents in the crowd broke down into tears just before the committee's approval.

"I'm sad. Scared. Disappointed," Kelly Dzurick, a 31-year-old fifth-grade teacher in Elkhorn, said as she walked out of the rotunda when it was clear the committee would pass the bill. "Nobody's listening to what people say."

Democrats were unable to stop it.

"The story around the world is the rush to democracy," said Sen. Bob Jauch, D-Poplar. "The story in Wisconsin is the end of the democratic process."

If passed by the Legislature, the move would mark a dramatic shift for Wisconsin, which passed a comprehensive collective bargaining law in 1959 and was the birthplace of the national union representing all non-federal public employees.

"It is momentous and I think people around the state are going to welcome it," said Sen. Alberta Darling, co-chair of the budget committee.

As protesters chanted "Recall Walker now!" outside the governor's office, Walker insisted he has the votes to pass the measure, which he says is needed to help balance a projected $3.6 billion budget shortfall and avoid widespread layoffs.

Walker said he appreciated protestors' concerns, but taxpayers "need to be heard as well." He said he would not do anything to "fundamentally undermine the principles" of the bill.

"We're at a point of crisis," the governor said.

In an interview with Milwaukee television station WTMJ, President Barack Obama said he was monitoring the situation in Madison and acknowledged the need for budget cuts. But, he said, pushing public employees away from the bargaining table "seems like more of an assault on unions."

As the bill appeared ready to advance, tensions rose in the Capitol. Police roamed the halls, restricted access to some rooms and stood watch outside the governor's office. The crowd swelled early in the evening as the budget committee prepared to start taking votes, with boos and screams filling the rotunda as Republican supporters of the bills talked.

Republican-backed changes made to the bill would extend a grievance procedure to public workers who don't have one and require more oversight and put a deadline on changes Walker's administration can make to the Medicaid program and the sale of public power plants.

In addition to eliminating collective bargaining rights, the legislation also would make public workers pay half the costs of their pensions and at least 12.6 percent of their health care coverage - increases Walker calls "modest" compared with those in the private sector.

More than 13,000 protesters gathered at the Capitol on Tuesday for a 17-hour public hearing on the measure. Thousands more came Wednesday.

"I'm fighting for my home and my career," said Virginia Welle, a 30-year-old teacher at Chippewa Falls High School. She said she and her husband, who also is a teacher, each stand to lose $5,000 a year in higher pension and health care contributions.

Welle said she never could get that money back since the unions would be unable to bargain over benefits under Walker's plan.

The protests have been larger and more sustained than any in Madison in decades. Dozens of protesters spent the night in sleeping bags on the floor of the Rotunda. A noise monitor in the Rotunda registered 105 decibels at midday Wednesday - about as loud as a power mower or chainsaw.

Beyond the Statehouse, more than 40 percent of the 2,600 union-covered teachers and school staff in Madison called in sick. No widespread sickouts were reported at any other school.

On Wednesday night, the head of the 98,000-member statewide teachers union called on all Wisconsin residents to come to the Capitol for the Thursday votes in the Senate and Assembly. More than a dozen districts - including Madison for a second day - canceled Thursday classes, which was expected to swell the number of protesters.

Prisons, which are staffed by unionized guards who would lose their bargaining rights under the plan, were operating without
 

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How dare these legislators propose public employees fund their own benefits. That's sooo 3rd world. We need to organize!!

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this is a good start.



I'm not seeing much positive results from the new GOP elected numbers other than that.

More so Union attacks and tax increases thru various states without real spending reduction or salary cuts.


Looks like the unions are gonna take the brunt of the beating here on the whipping posts instead of real govt spending reductions.



Sad.
 

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haha the 14 dems from the state senate have fled the state to prevent the vote from happening. the repubs have the votes to pass it, but due to a rule they cannot hold the vote if the dems are not there....yea, you were hired to do a job and you refuse to show up to do it....imo there should be immediate recall votes on these 14 dems...

also, the reason they fled the state is because the police were alerted that they would be tasked in finding them and bringing them to the capital to do their jobs- if they are not in the state....
 

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Don't feel too bad for them bro... they don't even have to pay state tax on the income they earn.
 

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haha the 14 dems from the state senate have fled the state to prevent the vote from happening.
Where are the calls of obstructionism ?
 

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also, the reason they fled the state is because the police were alerted that they would be tasked in finding them and bringing them to the capital to do their jobs- if they are not in the state....
I wish I could watch this up close.

Watching the very tea party leo's that will get laid off with the next wave of cuts, drag those shitass palin hatin dems in for the votes...:laughing:
 

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It has also been made known if the public employees walk out, the nat gaurd will be called up to fill the jobs until replacements can be hired/trained.

why would there be obstruction charges mentioned by the media? have you seen any coverage on this anywhere but fox news? i havent
 

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It has also been made known if the public employees walk out, the nat gaurd will be called up to fill the jobs until replacements can be hired/trained.
Phenomenal idea!!! This should happen each and every time they strike.
 

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It has also been made known if the public employees walk out, the nat gaurd will be called up to fill the jobs until replacements can be hired/trained.

why would there be obstruction charges mentioned by the media? have you seen any coverage on this anywhere but fox news? i havent
Cool.

Militia run govt.


That'll go over real well.:laughing:
we'll be just like Egypt.:laughing:
 

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no, but telling them they have to pay their fare share into their benefits will do nothing but help to reduce the bedget deficit....
 

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Wisconsin has shown that the train ride needs to end. It might as well end now...swift and sure. When we elect a real President again, it to will have to end nationaly too:lookinup:

BTW if 5% of our employees didn't show up for work, they would be visiting job service tomorrow :surprised

Walker got elected to fix this mess and it seems he has a good start
 
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