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...I have never looked at anything connected with wikileaks
until yesterday when I was semi-bored and a clicked on a
news article about the above, it just strikes me as senseless,
going to a CRIMINAL act of producing hacker programs
for download just so they can disrupt the credit card companies
and some big corporations when at this time of year people
are trying to handle the Christmas days and and others
who rely on those cards for every day use as (ie Medical) and
the alike, I read a paragraph on one of the news articles that
they hide amongst the general public like the average Joe,
once they downloaded those programs for implantation they
are no longer the average Joe but a CRIMINAL in the act.

....this is such a cowardly act to support a person who is
losing his means of financial support, if found they should be
tried as a CRIMINAL just like Organized Crime, I have no
feelings for those involved in doing so, they would have
been more useful to go after the terrorist network and bring
down part of their means of communication.

....just my P.O.
 

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Very well put, brother. It's a "Bonnie and Clyde" mentality brought on by the lefts endeavor to create class envy... and distrust of the affluent. Until these hackers being championed as heroes... turn on the public and infect their computers with world wide viruses. This is what they have been known for... until their recent fame.
 

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I think the Government should be better at Cyber Security than this. If the following is true about how Wikileaks started, you have to wonder how much information the Chinese gathered. You have to wonder what sensitive Government information was doing on the Tor Network:huh:

"One of the WikiLeaks activists owned a server that was being used as a node for the Tor network. Millions of secret transmissions passed through it. The activist noticed that hackers from China were using the network to gather foreign governments’ information, and began to record this traffic. Only a small fraction has ever been posted on WikiLeaks, but the initial tranche served as the site’s foundation, and Assange was able to say, "[w]e have received over one million documents from thirteen countries."

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...I have never looked at anything connected with wikileaks
until yesterday when I was semi-bored and a clicked on a
news article about the above, it just strikes me as senseless,
going to a CRIMINAL act of producing hacker programs
for download just so they can disrupt the credit card companies
and some big corporations when at this time of year people
are trying to handle the Christmas days and and others
who rely on those cards for every day use as (ie Medical) and
the alike, I read a paragraph on one of the news articles that
they hide amongst the general public like the average Joe,
once they downloaded those programs for implantation they
are no longer the average Joe but a CRIMINAL in the act.

....this is such a cowardly act to support a person who is
losing his means of financial support, if found they should be
tried as a CRIMINAL just like Organized Crime, I have no
feelings for those involved in doing so, they would have
been more useful to go after the terrorist network and bring
down part of their means of communication.

....just my P.O.
The news media are f'in idiots. what do they mean , "they hide amongst the general public?" The people doing this ARE the average joe. if i felt compelled, you know how easy it'd be for me to just download LOIC and join in on the effort? Takes a couple of mouse clicks, its as simple as getting on IRC to find out what the next target is, and setting up the low orbit ion cannon to fire. It aint rocket science, but its funny that the media thinks it is.:laughing:

Sorry, but it's nothing like organized crime. I'd like to see the law go after 30,000 people. and the number gets larger everyday. And if your computer has been infected with any number of viruses, your computer could be a part of a botnet, which means the attacks could technically be coming from your computer, so you'd be fooked too. :lookinup:

This is what a lot of the people have been using according to the media

 

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The news media are f'in idiots. what do they mean , "they hide amongst the general public?" The people doing this ARE the average joe. if i felt compelled, you know how easy it'd be for me to just download LOIC and join in on the effort? Takes a couple of mouse clicks, its as simple as getting on IRC to find out what the next target is, and setting up the low orbit ion cannon to fire. It aint rocket science, but its funny that the media thinks it is.:laughing:

Sorry, but it's nothing like organized crime. I'd like to see the law go after 30,000 people. and the number gets larger everyday. And if your computer has been infected with any number of viruses, your computer could be a part of a botnet, which means the attacks could technically be coming from your computer, so you'd be fooked too. :lookinup:
...I think the key word here is "infected" which is a big
difference between "intentional", as far as Organized
Crime you can bet your bottom dollar it is, with a network
to provide those programs and instructions as to what
electronic areas which are to be hit...30000 people, well
just like you see on TV those numbers are cut down to
get to the heart of the dragon, it is not out of the question
in this day and age, everyone most always leaves a finger print or two, ...
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...I think the key word here is "infected" which is a big
difference between "intentional", as far as Organized
Crime you can bet your bottom dollar it is, with a network
to provide those programs and instructions as to what
electronic areas which are to be hit...30000 people, well
just like you see on TV those numbers are cut down to
get to the heart of the dragon, it is not out of the question
in this day and age, everyone most always leaves a finger print or two, ...
:cheers:
With botnets, yeah, you can pretty much always trace it back to the main source, however, the 30,000 i mentioned is in reference to LOIC downloads alone, not the number of botnet computers. Given, having 30,000 downloaders prepare for an attack at the same time is highly improbable, but the LOIC program has already been tweaked so that a command can be remotely sent to the readied computers to begin firing packets at a specific time. Sort of a botnet, but not really.


"Initially, LOIC was a piece of software that had to be used manually: you had to run it on your machine (from which it would attempt to generate a DDOS). But as the week has progressed, other programmers have tweaked it so that it's simpler to use - you let the server control it. That has seen 33,000 downloads at a rate of more than 1,000 per hour since it was developed."

"Instead, what's making the difference is a small group of "admins" who are very much more skilled hackers - and who are able to command botnets of tens of thousands of computers. We'll explore that in a later post about what happens inside the forums where Anonymous operates."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2010/dec/10/hackers-loic-anonymous-wikileaks
 

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...I have never looked at anything connected with wikileaks
until yesterday when I was semi-bored and a clicked on a
news article about the above, it just strikes me as senseless,
going to a CRIMINAL act of producing hacker programs
for download just so they can disrupt the credit card companies
and some big corporations when at this time of year people
are trying to handle the Christmas days and and others
who rely on those cards for every day use as (ie Medical) and
the alike, I read a paragraph on one of the news articles that
they hide amongst the general public like the average Joe,
once they downloaded those programs for implantation they
are no longer the average Joe but a CRIMINAL in the act.

....this is such a cowardly act to support a person who is
losing his means of financial support, if found they should be
tried as a CRIMINAL just like Organized Crime, I have no
feelings for those involved in doing so, they would have
been more useful to go after the terrorist network and bring
down part of their means of communication.

....just my P.O.
Wow, regardless of the Wikileaks nonsense, you and VFPRREACHER should get together and pool you intellect. Maybe you could get into community college.
 

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Wow, regardless of the Wikileaks nonsense, you and VFPRREACHER should get together and pool you intellect. Maybe you could get into community college.
...That is a lucid, intelligent, well thought-out objection.

...Is that all you can post.....:laughing:
 

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....so as to what you have posted does not amount to
Organized Crime.....:huh:

With botnets, yeah, you can pretty much always trace it back to the main source, however, the 30,000 i mentioned is in reference to LOIC downloads alone, not the number of botnet computers. Given, having 30,000 downloaders prepare for an attack at the same time is highly improbable, but the LOIC program has already been tweaked so that a command can be remotely sent to the readied computers to begin firing packets at a specific time. Sort of a botnet, but not really.


"Initially, LOIC was a piece of software that had to be used manually: you had to run it on your machine (from which it would attempt to generate a DDOS). But as the week has progressed, other programmers have tweaked it so that it's simpler to use - you let the server control it. That has seen 33,000 downloads at a rate of more than 1,000 per hour since it was developed."

"Instead, what's making the difference is a small group of "admins" who are very much more skilled hackers - and who are able to command botnets of tens of thousands of computers. We'll explore that in a later post about what happens inside the forums where Anonymous operates."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2010/dec/10/hackers-loic-anonymous-wikileaks
 

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Wow, regardless of the Wikileaks nonsense, you and VFPRREACHER should get together and pool you intellect. Maybe you could get into community college.
Holy **** ! -you can hold a grudge for a long time. You're like an exwife... still pissed off that she found out her husband was banging her mom.

Two quick things... I'm not your ex-husband... and I'm not banging your mom.

Your grudge is misplaced.
I accept your apology.
 

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well I guess it's a matter of individual interpretation. :D But the answer's no. :laughing:
...I guess that depends on which side of the fence your on..:D


Under the Heading Organized Crime...Activities:
....Computer crime, or cybercrime, refers to any crime that
involves a computer and a network, where the computers may
or may not have played an instrumental part in the
commission of a crime. Netcrime refers, more precisely, to
criminal exploitation of the Internet.Issues surrounding
this type of crime have become high-profile, particularly
those surrounding hacking, copyright infringement, child
pornography, and child grooming. There are also problems of
privacy when confidential information is lost or intercepted,
lawfully or otherwise.

On the global level, both governments and non-state actors
continue to grow in importance, with the ability to engage in
such activities as espionage, financial theft, and other cross-
order crimes sometimes referred to as cyber warfare. The
international legal system is attempting to hold actors
accountable for their actions, with the International Criminal
Court among the few addressing this threat.
 
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