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Subaru WRX STi vs Stock C6

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#1 ·
Has anyone out there with a stock c6 run into one of these STis? If so what was the outcome? Thanks.
 
#3 ·
gundam83 said:
I was wondering about this as well. A buddy of mine is getting an STI soon. I'm sure after 60' it should be all vette tailights :cool:
They are running 1/8 mile in the low 8 second range. I had one fouling around with me earlier today, but I wasn't taking the bait. The ole stock '90 wouldn't stand a chance....

:(
 
#4 ·
I have 3 friends that have em.

one has an 03 Evo
one has an 05 STI
one has an 06 STI

I have raced the 05 and he pulled about a car on me.

But my friend with the 06 raced an LS2 GTO and beat it. i think the vette wouls win just beacuse its alot lighter.
 
#7 ·
03 cobras tend to take them off easily, and we know what happenes in a cobra vs. c5z/c6 bout.

ill give credit where credit is due, they handle very nicely my friends 03 wrx can hang with me through the twisties so long as i keep things sensible, but for 4 doors its impressive. if your going to race an evo/ sti know your enemy, they tend to be fast off the line and die out after 40 or so, a bolt on (stock turbo) sti/evo with upped boost is in the real of the c5z/c6s; mid to high 12s
 
#9 ·
I ran a NEW WRX STi in my 2006 C6 Coupe manual tranny from a dig.

He did not tach it up to 5500rpms and do an AWD dump, but he took off aggressively at lower rpms.

I launched slightly higher than off idle (1000-1500rpms) and had a couple car lengths on him by the 1-2 shift and steadily walked him after that.
Surprisingly, he did not get the jump on me.

However, if he would have been willing to do a 5000rpm dump, I think I would have caught him by the 1-2 shift or right afterwards and passed him soon after that.

My car was completely stock at that point.

Howard
 
#10 ·
exactly! he has to really romp it out of the hole with that car. my buddy used to have the 4 wheel drive twin turbo mistsubishi. i had to teach him how to drive the thing. about 4k and drop the clutch and he was wearing his water but other then that it was bog city. also it died at 40 mph. have hp but no tq...thats the diffrence
 
#12 ·
A C6 would definetly beat an STI. We drove one, and they have good power, but not enough to keep up with a vette. Just look at the stats: Subaru lbs./hp=10 Vette=7.75
The only reason an STI can stay even close is because of the hard launch via AWD, but above 50mph, you should pass him!:thumbsup:
 
#13 ·
Luke303rd said:
Has anyone out there with a stock c6 run into one of these STis? If so what was the outcome? Thanks.
On Paper:

WRX STi:
3315 lbs
300 HP
300 lbs/ft tq
lb / HP 11
0-60 4.9
rolling 5-60 6.4
1/4 13.4 @ 102
braking, 70-0, feet 157

C6 Corvette:
3,260 lbs
400 HP
400 lbs/ft tq
lb / HP 8.1
0-60 4.1
rolling 5-60 5.1
1/4 12.6 @ 114
braking, 70-0, feet 164
 
#15 ·
Sounds like you already know that any Supercharged or turbo charged engine is affected more by altitude than a normally aspirated engine. Looking at the stats and specs, there should be no contest on a dry, hard surface. In rain or snow or off-road the nod would likely go to the AWD Sub, IMO.
 
#16 ·
I beat one by several car lengths about 1/2 way through 2nd in my CTS-V - and its not near as fast as a C6.
 
#18 · (Edited)
Fun thread...
I sold my '05 STI for my '06 Vette.

As everyone has said, from a dig if you are willing to sacrifice some clutch to launch it hard, the AWD will pull hard. But with the shorter gearing you have to shift to 3rd to get to 60 (redline in 2nd is around 57 iirc) and the 1/4 mile will take one more gear!!

I ran mine hard and would always try roll ons with faster cars. I came up against more than just a few C5z and C6's on the freeway and I just didn't have the torque to pull on them, plus my shorter gearing would cost me time with each shift, I could see the torque from the V8's pull on me.

As for handling, that was a different beast - - you can do some amazing things in the corners with awd and come out clean, trust me I know :crazy:
A competent driver in an STI could keep a close pace with faster drivers in the tight corners, I surprised many drivers :laughing:

In a straight line don't worry the Vette will quickly pull after their 2-3 shift.
In the corners you have to be on your game or you will see that big hood scoop all over your rearview mirror.

Now a modded STI, more boost - - well now you are talking a closer match, the biggest bitch with AWD is the line loss, it's close to 20%. Mine dyno'd stock at just over 240hp to the wheels :WTF

Talk about a difference, my '06 is running at 397whp with headers, cai and tune :partyon:
 
#19 ·
Those Subies can be very very fast, but stock for stock, it will be the C6. I have a supercharged G35 Coupe that is pretty much dead on with my C6. I raced an STI from a stop light and put ~2 cars on him by 4th gear. The STI had exhaust and aftermarket blow off valve that I could hear, don't know if it had anything else done or not.

I also have run with TONS of STIs on road courses (but not in my C6) and they are pretty fast there as well. Of course, it all depends on the track, but I would say that an average lap time for an STI with a good driver who knows how to use AWD will be around the same as a stock C6 with a good driver. At places like the Cal Speedway infield, the STI I think would come out on top, but at higher horsepower tracks like Big Willow, the C6 would prevail.

I respect all cars, and I think that the STI is one of the best performance to money values out there, even better than a C6 Vette. Now the reason I say this is because if you had an STI and a C6, then put the difference in cost towards mods to the STI to make total costs even, the STI would be faster all around. Now that being said, if you put a value on looks and status, the STI wouldn't hold a candle to the Vette :).
 
#20 ·
SinCityC6 said:
I respect all cars, and I think that the STI is one of the best performance to money values out there, even better than a C6 Vette...put the difference in cost towards mods to the STI to make total costs even, the STI would be faster all around. Now that being said, if you put a value on looks and status, the STI wouldn't hold a candle to the Vette :).
Couldn't agree with you more :thumbsup:
 
#21 ·
Longtimer said:
Sounds like you already know that any Supercharged or turbo charged engine is affected more by altitude than a normally aspirated engine. Looking at the stats and specs, there should be no contest on a dry, hard surface. In rain or snow or off-road the nod would likely go to the AWD Sub, IMO.
I think it's just the opposite. Normally aspirated engines lose hp at about 3% per thousand feet above sea level. The blowers make up for it to a great degree. My wife's '87 Grand National pulls about the same here in COS as it did in SL VA. My 2000 WS6 T/A was definitely down on power here. No comparison with the Vette, as it's lived its 4 month life at 7000'. Will eventually take it down to the low lands to really feel what it has. :cheers:
 
#22 ·
Longtimer said:
On Paper:

WRX STi:
3315 lbs
300 HP
300 lbs/ft tq
lb / HP 11
0-60 4.9
rolling 5-60 6.4
1/4 13.4 @ 102
braking, 70-0, feet 157

C6 Corvette:
3,260 lbs
400 HP
400 lbs/ft tq
lb / HP 8.1
0-60 4.1
rolling 5-60 5.1
1/4 12.6 @ 114
braking, 70-0, feet 164

Thanks for the stats!:thumbsup: